ORION discipline

Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Dr.Brown, Aug 7, 2014.

  1. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    Have any of you been aware of it?
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  2. By The Book

    By The Book Well-Known Member

    What is it?
  3. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    You can't be disciplined for Orion violations. They can make something else up to discipline you for. Check out new technology language in new contract

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  4. Jones

    Jones fILE A GRIEVE! Staff Member

    Maybe not directly, but they can say "We instructed you to follow Orion, you didn't do it, so you're getting a warning letter for failure to follow instructions."
  5. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Like I said, they can make up something else to discipline you for???

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  6. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Drivers are truly STUPID when it comes to this issue. They argue they are not following ORION because it makes no sense. Just follow ORION and shut up. If you have missed business, Oh well you were working as directed. Man some of the battles you guys choose are just retarded.
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  7. Ouch

    Ouch Well-Known Member

    Inde, why Is it so hard for people to understand that if you follow their rules you win. I never have understood that.
  8. Ron Carey lives on

    Ron Carey lives on Well-Known Member

    Well some drivers try to take of customers (service stops) they have had for over 20 years. When ORION is telling them to go deliver a qvc package. You are right though, the best thing to do is just follow it. Have your customers call the center later and ask why am I getting my packages two hours later after 20 years of business

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  9. Brownslave688

    Brownslave688 You want a toe? I can get you a toe.

    I'm totally with you. Problem is the company is telling drivers only to run 85%. They know it's a messed up system. So the drivers following 95%+ are getting chewed out for performance and over miles.

    They are begging drivers to find the sweet spot. Which is funny that's what every driver did in their own before Orion.
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  10. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Agreed. If UPS threatens a driver for using common sense instead of trying to meet some arbitrary metric, then shut off brain and follow ORION 100%.
  11. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    was told you're supposed to break off to make business stops.

    There's a driver on working termination because of Orion.

    The suspension has gone to local panel to later be heard in Dallas, then last Friday they hit him with the working termination
  12. ZQXC

    ZQXC Guest

    And there it is....... Eureka!
  13. Theking30

    Theking30 SHORTY

    100% minus any stops that will cause service failures. Averaging 98.5%. Pretty sweet. Yes customers are not happy, but when it comes to my job or the customer. I think I choose my job.
  14. undies

    undies Active Member

    A driver was running Orion as close to 100% everyday and was getting killed on over allowed. Finally he was told to run it his way until they "fix" Orion on his route.
  15. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

    When they start to seriously discipline for Orion....drivers won't be able to turn Orion off in their boards...
  16. Dr.Brown

    Dr.Brown Swollen Member

    working termination is pretty serious
  17. bleedinbrown58

    bleedinbrown58 ahhh....the mouth breathers

  18. 3 done 3 to go

    3 done 3 to go In control of my own destiny

    In my 25 plus yrs. Haven't seen one driver fired with a working termination. The union and Ups will make some deal on a couple grievances. Then will be gone. I will follow the damn thing 100%. All businesses are off by 4pm.
  19. soberups

    soberups Pees in the brown Koolaid

    I have never followed ORION and never been threatened or talked to about my failure to do so. The simple reality for me is that following ORION would cause me to run out of fuel.
  20. 728ups

    728ups offending people on the internet since 1995

    ^^^^^THIS!!!/end thread
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