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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 2239248" data-attributes="member: 14668">Lets pretend for a moment that every single AR-15 had magically vanished from the USA and that Mateen had been unable to obtain one in Orlando.So instead of an AR-15, he could have bought an ordinary pump-action Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun, of the type commonly sold for duck or deer hunting, with a tubular magazine holding 5 or 6 rounds. Having sawed the stock and barrel down with a hacksaw, he could then have walked into the nightclub with 200 rounds of 00 buckshot in a dump pouch and murdered just as many people. It is quite easy to reload a tubular magazine with your left hand while holding a sawed off shotgun with your right hand, with a round in the chamber and your finger on the trigger ready to blast anyone who confronts you. And inside of 20 meters, 00 buckshot is far more lethal than the .223 round from an AR-15.The body count wasn&#039;t high because he had an AR-15. It was high because all of his victims were unarmed and helpless.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 2239248, member: 14668"] Lets pretend for a moment that every single AR-15 had magically vanished from the USA and that Mateen had been unable to obtain one in Orlando. So instead of an AR-15, he could have bought an ordinary pump-action Remington 870 12 gauge shotgun, of the type commonly sold for duck or deer hunting, with a tubular magazine holding 5 or 6 rounds. Having sawed the stock and barrel down with a hacksaw, he could then have walked into the nightclub with 200 rounds of 00 buckshot in a dump pouch and murdered just as many people. It is quite easy to reload a tubular magazine with your left hand while holding a sawed off shotgun with your right hand, with a round in the chamber and your finger on the trigger ready to blast anyone who confronts you. And inside of 20 meters, 00 buckshot is far more lethal than the .223 round from an AR-15. The body count wasn't high because he had an AR-15. It was high because all of his victims were unarmed and helpless. [/QUOTE]

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