Over 9.5 Penalty

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

What do you mean by the driver being the problem? What do you mean by slow? Someone that cant keep up with your pace?

He is talking about someone who can only do 13.3 SPORH when he is by himself yet is somehow able to do 16.3 SPORH when his on-car in riding with him.

 

['Lord Brown's bidding']

Locals trump master.

The more I reason on this, the more it makes sense.

I see your point B-Mon.

 

[tourists24]

He is talking about someone who can only do 13.3 SPORH when he is by himself yet is somehow able to do 16.3 SPORH when his on-car in riding with him.

As long as you are comparing similar loads then I agree.... I disagree if the route is changing on a daily basis (like at my center) which is why we don't see production cases at panel often.... but the company has won firings in arbitration if the loads are similar and the driver does 3 sph less by himself

 

[oldngray]

Only an idiot will have a higher SPORH when an on car is with him. Just make sure you do everything by the book and take no shortcuts and in most cases you will look worse on paper and then your butt is covered when you are by yourself.

 

[Overpaid Union Thug]

Lets not forget that loads are doctored up a bit before the sups and driver even get on the car.

 

[stink219]

Lets not forget that loads are doctored up a bit before the sups and driver even get on the car.

We have proven this as fact. And if it is adjusted, holding them accountable to the changes works as well.

 

[NI1]

Everyday is different. When they ride with you its always when the route is 'nice'. The load will always be good. Lastly, they can't disciple you using any computer technology.

Follow the methods, do the best you can. You'll be alright

 

[728ups]

I run at least an hour over every day and during my 3 day Lock in I ran 1.75-2 hours over each day,with the my Driver Supervisor telling me I was doing evrything right.He said I was very good at working both safely and by the methods.The center manager and my Driver Supervisor have been over my records with a fine tooth comb and cannot find out why i am over allowed.<shrug> I have had zero problems getting my penalty pay and target or not I am confident that as long as I work safely and by the Methods I have nothing to fear.

 

[Jones]

Everyday is different. When they ride with you its always when the route is 'nice'. The load will always be good. Lastly, they can't disciple you using any computer technology.

Follow the methods, do the best you can. You'll be alright

This.
No one ever got fired for doing their job. Every person I've seen who got walked out for real handed the company the rope they used to hang them.

 

[didyousheetit]

There is no ratio between performance and "winning" grievances; however, if you have someone an hour or more over who files and "wins" a 9.5 grievance you can bet dollars to donuts that he will have a huge target on his back.

I still contend that 9.5 grievances should be based on both the dispatch and hours worked. If I am dispatched at 9.75 hours and get it done in 9.49 hours I should be entitled to the same consideration as someone dispatched with a 8.95 who limps in at 9.75. Something to think about.

problem is that then the dispatch numbers will be change to be more like 9.48 and poof there goes your over 9.5

 

[Notretiredyet]

I've been dealing with this 9.5 issue for over 2 yrs now, have a pile of grievances deadlocked and going to state panel in a few weeks. Can't wait to see the center manager try to justify why this hasn't been fixed for more than a week or two before my stop count rises again, after promising to fix my dispatch again and again at local hearings. In the past few months he's been retaliating by dispatching me over 10 hrs 2 days a week, then getting PO'd when I combine those days with one just over 9.5. I really don't care about the penalty just want the problem fixed once and for all. My BA has deadlocked this at the local hearing and is asking for penalty pay on all 2yrs of them at this hearing, should be interesting.