Package Car Driver vs. Feeder

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by brownrecluse, Oct 20, 2007.

  1. brownrecluse

    brownrecluse Member

    Greetings. Newbie again... I am a new seasonal package car driver with UPS career ambitions. Assuming that I will have to serve more than one season as a temp - I am curious as to the differences (pay, benes, hours, etc.) between package car and feeder driving positions? (I hold a Class A CDL)

    Do you recommend one position over the other... and/or would I have to progress from one to the other?

    Also - as a seasonal driver - can one mix and match driving positions from season to season... Ie. package car @ Christmastime and feeder @ vacation times or similar.

    I apologize in advance if these questions are naieve... Thanks!
  2. rushfan

    rushfan Well-Known Member

    I did package for 7 years:

    Pros of package:
    You get to meet people and get to know them
    Once you get to know your customers, they will invite you for their lunch potlucks, Christmas/Holiday parties
    Better looking ladies

    Cons of package:
    You will hurt in places that you didn't know existed
    You will pull muscles you didn't know you had
    Many stops per day

    Pros of feeder:
    Low stop count
    knees and back don't hurt anymore
    Christmas/Holiday season low stop count

    Cons of feeder:
    Sleep schedule screwed up
    You have to watch your diet
    Chaining up with triple railers
    Lot lizards

    If your lucky enough to be in an area where you can skip package to feeder, do it. You won't regret it.
  3. Pollocknbrown

    Pollocknbrown Member

    By triple railers i assume u mean triple trailers? NOT IN MY STATE, illegal up the @$$ to have more than two trailers on the road at once.....hell most roads in my state dont allow doubles, only the highways for the most part.
  4. Pollocknbrown

    Pollocknbrown Member

    should note, i dont live in rest of NY, most roads around my area (buffalo).
  5. brownrecluse

    brownrecluse Member

    Is the pay scale generally the same?
  6. xracer

    xracer Member

    Pay scale in Feeders is slightly higher than in package car, you get an additional 15 cents per hour to drive feeders and 35 cents more on top of that to haul doubles, and you only have to haul doubles once during your shift to qualify for doubles pay for your entire shift and just having a dolly behind your trailer even without a second trailer garners doubles pay, I don't know what you get to haul doubles because we can't haul them here in Upstate NY. Double 40's also get more money but I am not sure of the difference on that either since in my center we can only pull 28's..
  7. brownrecluse

    brownrecluse Member

    Thanks to you all. Good food-for-thought!
  8. Fnix

    Fnix Active Member

    whats a lot lizard and can someone give me an exact definition of a Feeder?
  9. feeder

    feeder Central Pa Member

    In pennsylvania, we get .50 cents to pull doubles

    One of the benifits of having a "doubles run" , meaning everyday pulling of doubles on your run, like I have is that you get the doubles rate tacked on your Sick Days, Personal Days, or Vacation paycheck too....

    I used to be a pkg-car driver also,
    I have a question for the pkg-car drivers: When driving that mini-trailer attached to a pkg car(that is scheduled everyday) do you get that .10 cents on you payrate when sick, personal or vacation applies, just curious...........
  10. Ibt804Hammer

    Ibt804Hammer New Member

    hey feeder,
    under new contract you get .85 cents to pull em now. GRATS
  11. Pollocknbrown

    Pollocknbrown Member

    according to the Contract, Double forty's get you an extra buck an hour, on top of the 15 cents for driving feeders., i only see one set of double 40s come into my hub tho when im driving to work, the guy is usually running late, my question tho, what about a double one thats a 40 and a 28? because i have seen them pulling in and leaving the hub.
  12. MonavieLeaker

    MonavieLeaker Bringin Teh_Lulz

    Lot lizard is a lady who hangs around truck stops looking for sex(glorified hooker basically)...Feeders are the Semi trucks that pull the loads to other buildings
  13. rushfan

    rushfan Well-Known Member

    Here it's $1.00 more an hour for triples or twin 45' trailers.
  14. diesel96

    diesel96 New Member

    I don't know the rules of the road in your state but here in Fla. there's no way of driving of the Turnpike on city streets with a set of 40's. We have what you call exchange pads where the double 40's are assembled and dis-assemble and taken in and out individually to and from the hubs. We also don't mix trailer sizes either.
  15. Pollocknbrown

    Pollocknbrown Member

    I know what you speak of, there is one near the entrance to the thruway in my area, however, it is too far away for UPS to even consider using it, its closer to the air port than my hub, im just saying what i saw, the only reason i noticed dbl 40s or a 40 and a 28 was b/c of the amt of axles on the trailers.
  16. Hangingon

    Hangingon New Member

    Anyone know anything about new feeder runs being turned into 22.3 jobs? One of my co-workers who went to the contract meeting said this was brought up but he really didn't now if he caught the gist of it correctly.
  17. local804

    local804 Well-Known Member

    wording in the new contract favors this type of move.
  18. brownrecluse

    brownrecluse Member

    22.3 job...?
  19. hondo

    hondo promoted to mediocrity

    Article 22, section 3 of the UPS-Teamsters labor contract (see UPS NMA elsewhere on this site). It seems that language was originally intended to create full-time job opportunities for part-timers by combining two consecutive part-time jobs into one full-time (with 8 hour pay guarantee). It would appear now UPS would like to avoid creating new, true full-time jobs. As an example: the latest "22.3" or "combo" job up for bid in my barn is PM air driver (5:30pm-9:30pm) then carwasher (10:30pm-2:30am). BTW, the leading candidate has a seniority date of 1992, my point being permanent full time jobs can take a loooooong time to get. My advice, while on the job as a seasonal talk to everyone you can (fellow drivers, union stewards, center management, etc.) to get a truer picture of potential wait for permanent hire status.
  20. brownrecluse

    brownrecluse Member

    Thank you Hondo... I appreciate your advice. Man-oh-man - with exactly one week experience @ Big Brown... and absolutely no union experience whatsoever... I've got a lot to learn - and fast!