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<blockquote data-quote="Catatonic" data-source="post: 1235207" data-attributes="member: 7966"><p>I know thousands of people who believe in a divine being but not a single one believes in a "space god" that comes and goes from planet earth. I admit I don't know the comedian Bill Maher but I've heard him talk like this.</p><p></p><p>I feel compelled to point out to you that radio waves come and go through the Earth's atmosphere without burning up. Most "believers" don't believe that their God has a physical presence to any extent, not even that of a microwave.</p><p></p><p>The Bible for instance makes little mention of heaven but when it does it speaks of heaven being around you and within you.</p><p></p><p>If one is a Dualist, then indeed the Devil or Evil is within the religion and the very God that the Dualist worships.</p><p></p><p>TJ was at least Deist (Deism - Enlightenment faith in a rational, law-governed world created by a “supreme architect” or cosmic “clockmaker”) or more than likely a Unitarian Jesist which he believed to the extent that he created a book called "<em>The Jefferson Bible</em>" but which he named <em>The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth</em> for his own personal use.</p><p>TJ did not perceive a conflict or antithesis between belief in a deity or religion. Rather he saw science as the understanding of that rational, law-governed world created by a “supreme architect” or cosmic “clockmaker.”</p><p>It is ironic that you chose TJ since in his first and second presidential inaugurations, he referenced God as being needed in the American spirit and manifest destiny.</p><p>TJ, while not having much use for human centered Christian churches or the supernatural aspects or Trinity, he read his Jefferson Bible daily before going to bed.</p><p></p><p>As for your statement, "All the writings about christianity and other religious is pure foolery", I certainly do agree with that in respect to your post.</p><p></p><p>PEACE on Earth,</p><p></p><p>WWJD*</p><p></p><p>* <em><span style="font-size: 10px">What Would Jefferson Do?</span></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Catatonic, post: 1235207, member: 7966"] I know thousands of people who believe in a divine being but not a single one believes in a "space god" that comes and goes from planet earth. I admit I don't know the comedian Bill Maher but I've heard him talk like this. I feel compelled to point out to you that radio waves come and go through the Earth's atmosphere without burning up. Most "believers" don't believe that their God has a physical presence to any extent, not even that of a microwave. The Bible for instance makes little mention of heaven but when it does it speaks of heaven being around you and within you. If one is a Dualist, then indeed the Devil or Evil is within the religion and the very God that the Dualist worships. TJ was at least Deist (Deism - Enlightenment faith in a rational, law-governed world created by a “supreme architect” or cosmic “clockmaker”) or more than likely a Unitarian Jesist which he believed to the extent that he created a book called "[I]The Jefferson Bible[/I]" but which he named [I]The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth[/I] for his own personal use. TJ did not perceive a conflict or antithesis between belief in a deity or religion. Rather he saw science as the understanding of that rational, law-governed world created by a “supreme architect” or cosmic “clockmaker.” It is ironic that you chose TJ since in his first and second presidential inaugurations, he referenced God as being needed in the American spirit and manifest destiny. TJ, while not having much use for human centered Christian churches or the supernatural aspects or Trinity, he read his Jefferson Bible daily before going to bed. As for your statement, "All the writings about christianity and other religious is pure foolery", I certainly do agree with that in respect to your post. PEACE on Earth, WWJD* * [I][SIZE=2]What Would Jefferson Do?[/SIZE][/I] [/QUOTE]
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