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<blockquote data-quote="Brown Circus" data-source="post: 5730343" data-attributes="member: 79159">I said that the Bible has a lot of violence but Christianity does not.&nbsp; You take an author who is praised by the NYT (who completely denied the holocaust and was full of NAZI sympathizers) and makes EXTREME jumps in interpretation to slam the Bible.&nbsp; You go straight to the books of the law and begin attacking violence in the OLD TESTIMENT which were written for a society 5000 years ago and recorded and saved so that we could see just how lost they were on there own.&nbsp; Nobody and I mean nobody can read the book of John and find what you’re saying about hatred of the Jews and Jesus “callings his enemies a brood of vipers”…….read the chapter.&nbsp; Matthew 12.&nbsp; You are dead set on being anti christ but have probably never actually taken the time to read more than a verse or two completely out of context.&nbsp; God is love.&nbsp; The day that the church of “I hate god” is healing marriages(like mine), breaking drug addictions,&nbsp; ministering in prisons,&nbsp; feeding the hungry,&nbsp; shoeing children,&nbsp; giving backpacks to students,&nbsp; going into war zones to help refugees and sick people, giving people hope, peace, and generally turning people’s lives around then I will be in that pew right next to you but unfortunately so much effort is wasted in trying to convince people that God does not exist that nothing helpful or real gets accomplished.&nbsp; Do you feel that you wind up convincing anyone at all who is not otherwise already convinced of your beliefs?&nbsp; No you are converting and convincing no one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Brown Circus, post: 5730343, member: 79159"] I said that the Bible has a lot of violence but Christianity does not. You take an author who is praised by the NYT (who completely denied the holocaust and was full of NAZI sympathizers) and makes EXTREME jumps in interpretation to slam the Bible. You go straight to the books of the law and begin attacking violence in the OLD TESTIMENT which were written for a society 5000 years ago and recorded and saved so that we could see just how lost they were on there own. Nobody and I mean nobody can read the book of John and find what you’re saying about hatred of the Jews and Jesus “callings his enemies a brood of vipers”…….read the chapter. Matthew 12. You are dead set on being anti christ but have probably never actually taken the time to read more than a verse or two completely out of context. God is love. The day that the church of “I hate god” is healing marriages(like mine), breaking drug addictions, ministering in prisons, feeding the hungry, shoeing children, giving backpacks to students, going into war zones to help refugees and sick people, giving people hope, peace, and generally turning people’s lives around then I will be in that pew right next to you but unfortunately so much effort is wasted in trying to convince people that God does not exist that nothing helpful or real gets accomplished. Do you feel that you wind up convincing anyone at all who is not otherwise already convinced of your beliefs? No you are converting and convincing no one. [/QUOTE]

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