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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OLDMAN3" data-source="post: 1831601">Dave,Major metropolitan areas have always had (even 30 years ago)  nut-crusher routes that make your numbers look easy. For example, I filled in on a route 25 years ago that typically had 700 pieces, 150 stops delivered with 30 pickups and 500+ pieces picked up (58 miles). That route would never have under 1000 pieces (del+pickups).By the way, a p1000 is not a big package car these days. Get over yourself. We have guys that are 2 1/2 to 3 hours under each day doing 170+ stops. You are not the superstar you think you are.There were runner-gunners back then and there are runner-gunners today. Who cares?</blockquote>