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Part Timers, 5.5 hrs vs get your job done
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<blockquote data-quote="Bagels" data-source="post: 1152250" data-attributes="member: 43436"><p>Not sure I really agree with that. In my experience as a steward, when management wanted a termination based upon attendance to stick, they'd play hard ball & let it go to hearing where the outcome would be 'show up late one time / miss one day of work within the next 9 months and you're done.' By the time it's reached this point, these guys typically have at least 15 call-ins or 30 lates within the last 9 months (and I say "at least" because it's typically significantly more) ... how many of them could realistically go 9 months without another one? When they do screw up again (and they always do), the union won't accept another grievance.</p><p></p><p>OTOH, I've seen people with similar attendance issues -- but significantly stronger work ethics -- be given deals like 'show up on-time every day for the next month and this will be dropped.' And when they don't, management will key it in so they appear on-time saying something like 'well, it's foggy out this morning ... it's much more important to show up to work safe than worry about the fog and be sorry.' In other words, they'll look the other way & deal with it for the people they want to keep (unless they really force management's hand and then show up late every single day... and yes, I've seen it happen), as they know how difficult it is to retain quality help. I wouldn't give the union too much credit, but just my opinion.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bagels, post: 1152250, member: 43436"] Not sure I really agree with that. In my experience as a steward, when management wanted a termination based upon attendance to stick, they'd play hard ball & let it go to hearing where the outcome would be 'show up late one time / miss one day of work within the next 9 months and you're done.' By the time it's reached this point, these guys typically have at least 15 call-ins or 30 lates within the last 9 months (and I say "at least" because it's typically significantly more) ... how many of them could realistically go 9 months without another one? When they do screw up again (and they always do), the union won't accept another grievance. OTOH, I've seen people with similar attendance issues -- but significantly stronger work ethics -- be given deals like 'show up on-time every day for the next month and this will be dropped.' And when they don't, management will key it in so they appear on-time saying something like 'well, it's foggy out this morning ... it's much more important to show up to work safe than worry about the fog and be sorry.' In other words, they'll look the other way & deal with it for the people they want to keep (unless they really force management's hand and then show up late every single day... and yes, I've seen it happen), as they know how difficult it is to retain quality help. I wouldn't give the union too much credit, but just my opinion. [/QUOTE]
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