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<blockquote data-quote="VTBrown" data-source="post: 256543" data-attributes="member: 11076"><p>Don't try and generalize who will vote for what.</p><p></p><p>The contract isn't so bad that it effects any current employee in a monetary or job security type of situation other then a few feeder guys. Who are in a minority position compared to the company on a whole.....</p><p></p><p>We also have the "Let's save the CS guys" crap going on. So that is going to be OVER pushed and used by management as an angle.</p><p></p><p>It effects FUTURE employees more, ones who have obviously NO vote. Prior UPS employee's voted the last one in. Trust me when I say progression is a whole lot worse now from what I've read prior to it. No I'm not talking monetary I'm talking about the language pertaining to lay offs for them.</p><p></p><p>So as in the past....FUTURE employees are rarely looked after when it comes to the contracts.</p><p></p><p>What effects us Full-Timers is the absolute joke of protection versus over-time. The language is so WEAK it's not even funny. Heavy penalties that will amount to just about ZERO when it comes down to it. </p><p></p><p>The opt in or opt out doesn't bother me one bit. You either want it or don't. </p><p></p><p>The request for an 8 hour day needs to be made 5 days in advance, bull crap. It's not even an 8 hour day - they have been given permission to run us 8.5 with no recourse now. Again...bull crap.</p><p></p><p>The fact that half of our so called raise can be diverted to health and pension? Bull crap. </p><p></p><p>Those are the reasons I'm voting no.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="VTBrown, post: 256543, member: 11076"] Don't try and generalize who will vote for what. The contract isn't so bad that it effects any current employee in a monetary or job security type of situation other then a few feeder guys. Who are in a minority position compared to the company on a whole..... We also have the "Let's save the CS guys" crap going on. So that is going to be OVER pushed and used by management as an angle. It effects FUTURE employees more, ones who have obviously NO vote. Prior UPS employee's voted the last one in. Trust me when I say progression is a whole lot worse now from what I've read prior to it. No I'm not talking monetary I'm talking about the language pertaining to lay offs for them. So as in the past....FUTURE employees are rarely looked after when it comes to the contracts. What effects us Full-Timers is the absolute joke of protection versus over-time. The language is so WEAK it's not even funny. Heavy penalties that will amount to just about ZERO when it comes down to it. The opt in or opt out doesn't bother me one bit. You either want it or don't. The request for an 8 hour day needs to be made 5 days in advance, bull crap. It's not even an 8 hour day - they have been given permission to run us 8.5 with no recourse now. Again...bull crap. The fact that half of our so called raise can be diverted to health and pension? Bull crap. Those are the reasons I'm voting no. [/QUOTE]
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