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<blockquote data-quote="Serf" data-source="post: 3078633" data-attributes="member: 50254">How was Spain?In the simplest of terms I could describe all these places one would see on television.&nbsp; But we&#039;re not talking about exotic.&nbsp; We&#039;re talking about places that out do the States.&nbsp; Abstaining from politics, if you categorize most rank and file Americans as working class or middle class.&nbsp; Then compare tax brackets, university costs, town/city taxes, medical costs, insurance costs, tolls, fees, rules, regulations, guidelines, wages, raises. Etc.&nbsp; One can easily come to the conclusion that they are not getting as much as many other countries provide in the form of social services. Student loans are predatory debts that put a stranglehold on your future.&nbsp; Yet they are necessary to get almost any decent job.&nbsp; However, ANYONE can attend university now, even if they aren&#039;t &quot;college material.&quot;The housing and mortgage industry is artificially inflated, never fully recovered, and still folks aren&#039;t rushing out to get subprime loans.&nbsp; I would recommend Ireland or South Korea as pristine places to live and work.&nbsp; Quality of life, taxes, wages, medical, infrastructure, etc.&nbsp; Even more Specifically Shannon, IR.&nbsp; And Inchon, SK.&nbsp; To add contrast, a place I would stay far away from is Kuwait.&nbsp; Absolutely zero middle class. Only wealthy families and a massive slave like under class, poor peasants and migrant workers from Africa and Phillipines.&nbsp; Oppressive heat temperatures and ridiculous micro managing type laws.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Serf, post: 3078633, member: 50254"] How was Spain? In the simplest of terms I could describe all these places one would see on television. But we're not talking about exotic. We're talking about places that out do the States. Abstaining from politics, if you categorize most rank and file Americans as working class or middle class. Then compare tax brackets, university costs, town/city taxes, medical costs, insurance costs, tolls, fees, rules, regulations, guidelines, wages, raises. Etc. One can easily come to the conclusion that they are not getting as much as many other countries provide in the form of social services. Student loans are predatory debts that put a stranglehold on your future. Yet they are necessary to get almost any decent job. However, ANYONE can attend university now, even if they aren't "college material." The housing and mortgage industry is artificially inflated, never fully recovered, and still folks aren't rushing out to get subprime loans. I would recommend Ireland or South Korea as pristine places to live and work. Quality of life, taxes, wages, medical, infrastructure, etc. Even more Specifically Shannon, IR. And Inchon, SK. To add contrast, a place I would stay far away from is Kuwait. Absolutely zero middle class. Only wealthy families and a massive slave like under class, poor peasants and migrant workers from Africa and Phillipines. Oppressive heat temperatures and ridiculous micro managing type laws. [/QUOTE]

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