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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4369235" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>The problem that you guys never seen to grasp is while yes terrible things were done in the past by people claiming to be Christians overall Western society has moved past that.&nbsp; But a significant percentage of the Muslim population still believes in a strict adherence to Islam and that belief system states that Islam must be preeminent in the world, must subjugate nonbelievers.&nbsp; And thus we have constant terror attacks around the world.&nbsp; Apologists will point to one offs in the Christian world like an attack on an abortion clinic as somehow the moral equivalent of all the Islamic terror attacks but it&#039;s not even close.&nbsp; Something to consider.&nbsp; During times when there was a level playing field, armies were on horseback, battles fought with bows and swords, Muslims came close to capturing Europe and spread their beliefs all the way to the Pacific.&nbsp; It was the need to protect themselves that drove the Europeans to develop weapons that ultimately allowed them to project power and institute colonialism.&nbsp; Beyond that research and development in the West has created modern technologies such as the internet we are communicating on in this forum.&nbsp; The Muslim world by and large has stagnated because much of their advancement was based on conquering others and taking their wealth.&nbsp; When that got stymied they languished except for those countries who were fortunate enough to discover oil.&nbsp; So really it&#039;s not just a matter of one is just as bad as another but the clash of civilizations from which ultimately one came out on top.&nbsp; And from which we have a liberal element that attacks the foundations of Western society and sides with it&#039;s enemies because, as the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 4369235, member: 24302"] The problem that you guys never seen to grasp is while yes terrible things were done in the past by people claiming to be Christians overall Western society has moved past that. But a significant percentage of the Muslim population still believes in a strict adherence to Islam and that belief system states that Islam must be preeminent in the world, must subjugate nonbelievers. And thus we have constant terror attacks around the world. Apologists will point to one offs in the Christian world like an attack on an abortion clinic as somehow the moral equivalent of all the Islamic terror attacks but it's not even close. Something to consider. During times when there was a level playing field, armies were on horseback, battles fought with bows and swords, Muslims came close to capturing Europe and spread their beliefs all the way to the Pacific. It was the need to protect themselves that drove the Europeans to develop weapons that ultimately allowed them to project power and institute colonialism. Beyond that research and development in the West has created modern technologies such as the internet we are communicating on in this forum. The Muslim world by and large has stagnated because much of their advancement was based on conquering others and taking their wealth. When that got stymied they languished except for those countries who were fortunate enough to discover oil. So really it's not just a matter of one is just as bad as another but the clash of civilizations from which ultimately one came out on top. And from which we have a liberal element that attacks the foundations of Western society and sides with it's enemies because, as the saying goes, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. [/QUOTE]

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