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Pending Arbitration case-Really Insubordination?
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<blockquote data-quote="JonFrum" data-source="post: 499104" data-attributes="member: 18044"><p>ProbreCarlos, you are correct. </p><p> </p><p>But it's always good advice to ask for a Steward because you never know for sure where the conversation will go. A Steward also acts as an experienced witness, and can keep you from saying anything or doing anything that would make the situation worse. If Management refuses you a Steward, that makes them look bad in the eyes of a future panel or Arbitrator. Finally, even if the sole purpose of the meeting is to fire you, you don't necessarily know that at the time they call you into the office. You can reasonable be thinking "oh-oh, this can't be good" without actually knowing what they have in store for you. It's a grey area.</p><p> </p><p>- - - -</p><p> </p><p>By the way, a fellow employee is mearly a witness, and not necessarily a good one, not an Alternate Steward. Only the Union can designate Alternate Stewards, and only Stewards and Alternates have the experience and authority to represent you properly. (Not that all do, of course.) A fellow employee will probably just sit there, or feel obligated to be neutral, or feel obliged to lean toward Management because they selected him.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="JonFrum, post: 499104, member: 18044"] ProbreCarlos, you are correct. But it's always good advice to ask for a Steward because you never know for sure where the conversation will go. A Steward also acts as an experienced witness, and can keep you from saying anything or doing anything that would make the situation worse. If Management refuses you a Steward, that makes them look bad in the eyes of a future panel or Arbitrator. Finally, even if the sole purpose of the meeting is to fire you, you don't necessarily know that at the time they call you into the office. You can reasonable be thinking "oh-oh, this can't be good" without actually knowing what they have in store for you. It's a grey area. - - - - By the way, a fellow employee is mearly a witness, and not necessarily a good one, not an Alternate Steward. Only the Union can designate Alternate Stewards, and only Stewards and Alternates have the experience and authority to represent you properly. (Not that all do, of course.) A fellow employee will probably just sit there, or feel obligated to be neutral, or feel obliged to lean toward Management because they selected him. [/QUOTE]
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