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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 54331"><p>ok2bc, </p><p>What you say about voting party lines may very well be true but I'd like to throw out another angle that could be the case. For example during the Clinton years there was talk about Social Security reform and even the idea of private accounts was considered. Now the specific details of their idea may be different than what has be proposed of late but the point is the republicans just sat on their hands. In other words they acted along party lines. Why? Because the potential of that idea being a overwhelming success was to great and the democrats stood the chance of getting the lions share of the credit thus furthering their position of power. Had this happened during the Clinton years and been successful the positive aspects would have filtered to Gore and it's very possible this momentum could have made the difference in the 2000' election. Ironically about the time Clinton and company was openly talking about SS reform we started having the Impeachment process building strength. We'd do well to rattle that in our noddles awhile. The ultimate goal IMO was the 2000' elections but it also serviced a more short term effect for the republicans. Had the republicans really wanted SS reform IMO they would have blackmailed Clinton so to speak, and to quote Larry the Cable guy, "Get Er' Done!" </p><p> </p><p>Now the shoe is on the other foot and the republicans are positioning to take the credit to their advantage and that's the last thing politically the democrats can let them do. It's no longer about America but about the republicans or the democrats. We just get slammed in the middle and sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. Just depends on your lifestyle as to how it will impact. </p><p> </p><p>Is there bad legislation? Absolutely. Are our politicians to quick sometimes to jump? Again absolutely. Could Congressman Miller be taking the correct approach in wanting to study the issues further? Sure could. However, could it as well be an excuse to cover the underlaying truth that one party doesn't want the other party to get credit for something that is a major problem issue and in light of the fact a very important election is coming up next year with the off year Congressional elections. I hate to be a cynic and almost conspiratorial theorist but the simple historical fact is I have good grounds to be that way. </p><p> </p><p>Just thought I'd throw out another potential angle.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 54331"] ok2bc, What you say about voting party lines may very well be true but I'd like to throw out another angle that could be the case. For example during the Clinton years there was talk about Social Security reform and even the idea of private accounts was considered. Now the specific details of their idea may be different than what has be proposed of late but the point is the republicans just sat on their hands. In other words they acted along party lines. Why? Because the potential of that idea being a overwhelming success was to great and the democrats stood the chance of getting the lions share of the credit thus furthering their position of power. Had this happened during the Clinton years and been successful the positive aspects would have filtered to Gore and it's very possible this momentum could have made the difference in the 2000' election. Ironically about the time Clinton and company was openly talking about SS reform we started having the Impeachment process building strength. We'd do well to rattle that in our noddles awhile. The ultimate goal IMO was the 2000' elections but it also serviced a more short term effect for the republicans. Had the republicans really wanted SS reform IMO they would have blackmailed Clinton so to speak, and to quote Larry the Cable guy, "Get Er' Done!" Now the shoe is on the other foot and the republicans are positioning to take the credit to their advantage and that's the last thing politically the democrats can let them do. It's no longer about America but about the republicans or the democrats. We just get slammed in the middle and sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. Just depends on your lifestyle as to how it will impact. Is there bad legislation? Absolutely. Are our politicians to quick sometimes to jump? Again absolutely. Could Congressman Miller be taking the correct approach in wanting to study the issues further? Sure could. However, could it as well be an excuse to cover the underlaying truth that one party doesn't want the other party to get credit for something that is a major problem issue and in light of the fact a very important election is coming up next year with the off year Congressional elections. I hate to be a cynic and almost conspiratorial theorist but the simple historical fact is I have good grounds to be that way. Just thought I'd throw out another potential angle. [/QUOTE]
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