PETA are at it again



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The paranormal at PETA are at it again with another stupidity campaign, and this one, mom and dad, is aimed at your kids. PETA, with its couldn't-be-more-bizarre-if-they-tried zombies, is out in full farce with their sights set on getting your little ones, apart from you, to worship animals and eat lettuce for the rest of their lives.

Their current cacophony of craziness is this: if you took Skooter, Jr. fishing this year, well then, you're the devil. You . . . are a bad parent. And the kids should, "turn in their fishing tackle" and even grab "Grandpa's fishing rod so it won't cause any more pain and suffering." []

Through stealth research, spending tens of dollars (not to mention several acid trips in which they personally interviewed many fish), the wizards at PETA have concluded that fishing hurts the fish. No kidding? I wouldn't have thought that a sharp hook in a fish's mouth would hurt. Garsh. Thanks for the enlightenment. But y'know . . . even in this newly illuminated state, I couldn't care less. All I've got to say is, "I'm top of the food chain. Pass the tartar sauce, and get in my belly."

Now if PETA wants to think that way, fine. That means more fish for me. And if PETA gets their jollies as they read High Times and watch The Lion King while wearing pleather, gargling rice milk and eating tofu, well then let them. It's a free country. But if they want to surreptitiously indoctrinate my kids with their madness, they have just faux- leathered their way into my sacred zone where trespassers are unwelcome.

Knowing that sanity reigns supreme in most American households and that the vast majority of parents think the PETA cronies are certifiable, the mentally challenged at PETA have gotten busy developing kiddy websites, worming their way into mass media and stoking their plants within the public fool system with a fresh batch of PETA Kool-Aid. Be prepared, mom and dad, for the possibility that your unmonitored kid will get that Ban roll-on glazed look over their eyes, chant the mantra of the non-meat eaters, and give you that tsk-tsk look if you order chicken for dinner, because PETA is specifically gunning for them.

If it were up to this gang (and that's what they are) your kids would not dissect a frog, buy Dr. Marten's, hunt quail, catch a trout, go to a circus or drink a glass of Elsie's best, and they would virulently rebel against those who do, including you.

That's just a little FYI, from me to you, so be on the look out for their beyond the pale political correctness to be crammed down your kids' throats.

Now, here's a little 411 to give to your children regarding what hunters and anglers, that's right, "fish-catchers, meat-eaters and leather-wearers," actually do on a on-going and on-growing annual basis for the flora and fauna of our fantabulous nation:

1. HUNTING & FISHING LICENSE SALES total nearly $1 billion annually. This contribution supplies over half the income of the state conservation agencies and is used for wildlife management, education and safety programs.

2. EXCISE TAXES on sporting equipment, such as fishing tackle, firearms and ammunition, provide another $400 million, funding thousands of conservation, habitat improvement and recreation projects across America.

3. DUCK STAMPS purchased by migratory bird hunters add another $21 million in annual funding, totaling over $500 million to date. This money has been used to purchase some 5 million acres of wetlands habitat.

4. CHARITABLE CONTRIBUTIONS by hunters and anglers to some 10,000 private organizations provide another $300 million in wildlife funding, in addition to the countless hours they spend doing vital conservation work.

5. ALL TOLD, hunters and anglers annually provide over 75% of the average funding for state conservation agencies and some nine dollars for each single taxpayer dollar invested in wildlife.

Like I said, make sure you kids get this brief.

Virtually every species of wildlife, from songbirds and chipmunks to bald eagles and whooping cranes, benefits from the programs supported and financed by hunters and anglers. PETA . . . well . . . they don't even come close to that. They won't, and they never will, no matter how many hepatitis-C-carting soft porn stars, B-grade actors and brothers of famous people speak on their behalf, or how many bizarre protests they stage, or how many shocking comic books they launch to boost their losing battle.

My advice, mom and dad: take your kids hunting this fall and fishing this spring and summer. Introduce them to the respectful and responsible way enjoying and using of these amazingly healthy natural resources. Join the NRA and the IGFA, as well as other state and local hunting and fishing organizations. Also, tell the teachers at that Kool-Aid Elementary that their anti-hunting, fishing and leather-wearing smack is not going to go down with you and yours and that they need to save that rhetoric for their weekend bong sessions with their adult friends who don't mind smoking it.

I honestly wish these PETA morons would get as zealous at protecting the rights of an unborn child as they are in trying to stop someone from making an omelet out of whooping crane eggs.

Well, I must run . . . I've got a big slab of snook to eat, and a whitetail deer/wild boar/American Bison hunt in Texas next month for which I must prepare. However, if you want more info regarding PETA and their unending weirdness and hypocrisy, go to and


PETA must be shut down. They are a complete bunch of idiots. I have a bumper sticker on my car that says: PETA...People Eating Tastey Animals...and people love it. I dont believe in killing any animals, only to survive, but im not going to freak out about it like these morons. Ill even go on a hunt, doesnt dother me.


Fishing, now there is something I know about.

Fish do not have the "brain" portion needed to feel pain. They can feel stimulus, but not pain as you and I feel it. They can absorb trauma that would leave you and I in a coma or worse, and they eat and swim like nothing is wrong.

There are many scientific articles proving them wrong.

But none the less, when doing procedures on fish, I always put them under both for their safety and mine. Last thing you want to do is have a 30 inch fish flop while giving it an injection of antibiotics.


(Message edited by dannyboy on October 10, 2005)


For those who want their children to experience the thrill and zen of hunting try this:

Take the kids out to the local hunting lease, field or pasture. Shoot one of the kids in the hip, thigh, leg or lower abdomen (anywhere that is not a kill shot) with a razor tip arrow or high powered rifle. Now the parents and other kids can experience the thrill of chasing the wounded child as it drags itself, in pain and slowly bleeding to death through the brushe trying to escape. What fun!

For those parents who want their children to experience the feel of fur try this:
Take the kids out to the garage. Open the car door. Place child's hand in door jamb and slam the door real hard.

Not enough adrenaline rush? Take the kids to the local morgue and ask if there is a human cadaver that can be skinned. After tanning the hide, the kids can make jackets to wear to school. How cool! They might start a new trend and mom and dad could turn this into a money making deal!

As the world ponders the eternal dilemma of man's inhumanity to man, we still can't treat animals with a shred of respect. It's has gotten to where I respect animals more than humans.

"The thrill is not to kill, but to let live"
author unknown.


Most hunters hunt to get away from the wife or to get to go out and kill something without getting arrested rather than as a service to mankind or the environment, but hey their tax money certainly does help and as long as it's regulated they perform and actual service even if that isn't why they do it.

So while I don't have any special respect for the brave great hunters, neither do I consider them the scourge of humanity.

I am certainly against inhumane treatment of any sort of animals, but that trick you are sounding like one of those nuts that say a rat or bunny's life is just as important as a human's.

Are you one of those?



There are hunters, and then there are what you described. Those are the people that take "sound shots" at targets. And each year, many people are shot by those type of "hunter". In my opinion, they should never be allowed to own, much less use the gun. And if a gun is found in their possession, STraight to jail, no stoping at go.

Then there are the real hunters. Those that will never take the shot unless they know the target is hit fatally with one shot.

And somewhere in between are the majority.


"Most hunters hunt to get away from the wife or to get to go out and kill something without getting arrested..."

What a dumb-ass ignorant statement. PLEASE tell me you are kidding this time, OK. Sometimes I start to have a little (reeeally little) respect for you, and then you puke out of your mouth.

What is sad is that people who say that will then go to the grocerie store and buy some steak taken from a cow that had a bolt fired thru its brain. (You did know that, right? The steak in the store comes from an animal somebody killed without getting arrested..)


Hey there Trick, now that was such a chilling, theatrical rant, I almost mistook it for one of mine

I reside in a state where hunting is nearly a prereqisite for citizenship, and while there certainly are some rotten apples I can assure you that the typical sportsman in these parts don't engage in the practice for some sort of twisted adrenaline rush. A clear majority of the group are humane, level-headed and often much more in tune and sympathetic to the various threats and struggles that animals have to overcome in order to sustain survival than anybody belonging to PETA could ever hope to be.

Not all baseball players behave like Jose Canseco. Not every religious person behaves like Pat Robertson. Certainly not every UPS driver stuffs his damn garage full of items that he stole from his route on the Gurnee Mills shopping mall...Yeah that's right scumbag. I'm still pissed as hell at you for that!

I'd agree that PETA goes way over the top. The last time I had come across some of them here they were having a meeting'll never guess...a MacDonalds chowing down on Big Macs and hamburgers. Where do they think the meat at the restaurant or in the grocery store comes from, for goodness sake?


As if you didn't already know PETA is a hypocritical and worthless organization. Penn and Teller explain them even further
(WARNING: strong language used)


LoL , interesting thread. I didn't actually expect to find any peta supporters on this thread other than maybe Suzie Q.

I agree most of your serious hunters are responsible sportsmen who through licenses actually help the preservation of wildlife. Its an interesting point since hunters financially do more to preserve wildlife than most of these Peta fanatics.

I also think trickponys point a good one. There is a group of hunters out there that are maliciously inhumane towards animals and endanger the rest of us with their recklessness.Its a point I think we have to address and police in order to preserve the right to hunt. Most of your fanatical animal lovers probably come from urban areas. Removed from and not exposed to the responsible sportsman they can wield a lot of political clout against hunting and hunters if we do not police our own.

My wife and I often have this debate. My wife is no Peta nut and despises those people and their idiotic ways. But everytime she sees our neighbor across the street bring home a beautifull buck or doe she cries. I understand how she feels. I would prefer to hunt wildlife with a camera rather than a gun. My dad has always been a big hunter but while I have hunted I never really took to it since I don't particularly favor the taste of wild meat. Fishing is another story. can there be any greater thrill than to watch a hog bass jump up and look you in the eye as he tries to shake your lure loose.

There is a need for hunting in this country regardless of whether we like it or not. As mankind has spread across this country we have taken out many of the predators that kept nature in check. As inhumane as it is to have some idiot wing a deer causing a slow painfull death; it would be much more inhumane to allow those deer to overpopulate and starve to death.


over, puleeze, with respect, considering much of the crap you have uttered recently such as your kill them all down in New Orleans,etc you should be fully qualified to recognise "a dumb-ass ignorant statement" under the takes one to know one theory, but apparently not.

So you are stating that there is some selfless good for humanity impulse that drives the majority of hunters to spend tons of money and time away from home?

I know you are afraid your wife will have read that, right?

Have you convinced your better half that there is some other reason why you go?

What did you snow her with?

Food provider for the family?

Grocery stores are for cowards and wusses, right!

Lover of the great outdoors?

You know you can do that without spending money on a license, etc, right?

Fervent Conservationalist?


Just getting to kill something after a day at work.

Yeah, there is something to that.

To test your wits against stupid animals.

gonna leave that one alone.

To prove your bravery going up against a vicious deer, rabbit, squirrel armed with nothing more than a high powered rifle?

Ummm, right.

To drink and goof off with the guys.

Well, of course, but that won't fly well with the ladies now will it.

Guess what, they already know.

Realize, I am not anti-hunter or anti-marriage or anything, I hunt and have a loving wife who I have been married to for 26 plus years, but let's be real most like to go hunting because it gets them out of the house and let's them spend money on stuff they like to do in a socially acceptable way.

If you can't admit it to yourself, sorry.

Wait a minute, got it, you stand alone against the world saving one Cow at a time!


Surprise, I'm not a PETA supporter!

My sons used to hunt, many of my friends still do. I fish, even tried hunting once, didn't care for it. Actually I was only hunting for fur for trout flies. I prefer an angus beef to venison(rats with hooves), rabbit, squirrel etc. I don't mind pheasant or duck on occasion, though I'd just as soon buy it farm raised.

I know how they kill beef cattle, know how they raise them, too. I know how my husband grills them too... mighty tastily, over mesquite!

One anecdote:

There was one of the drivers I knew that had gone hunting every year since he was 16. First week deer camp with the boys, bla bla. Anyway, something almost happened a couple of years ago for the first time ever, which would have ruined deer camp. It seems as though one of the younger men, a first timer, had actually shot at a deer, really trying to hit it! That had never happened in over 30 years.

Girls, if the old man wants to hunt, fish, camp, whatever for a week a year, let him go, and go out for dinner every night he's gone! Seems fair to me, after all, the gear and licenses/permits all add up, so take advantage of the situation.


brett, i have that penn and tell episod on my computer, its really funny when ted nugent speaks about PETA


The planet I am on has a mixed population of people.

The people who origin from the shallower gene pools feel the need to kill, injure and mangle as a expression or exertion of their control and dominance. The possession and exhibition of high powered weapons as phallic symbols is common.

The people who origin from the deeper gene pools are secure within themselves and among others. They can relate to other persons and living creatures. They can appreciate the fruits and beauty of nature such as being blessed with the presence of a wild creature's beauty and innocence without feeling threatened. They can enjoy the gifts of life such as watching a sunrise and being surprised by a flock of creatures of flight as they fly over on apprach to a nearby body of water. They are not consumed by an overwhelming urge to whip out "'ol boomer" (the 12 gauge) and "blow some of them there birds outta the sky" and then swig on the whiskey bottle as they pick up the corpses. They tend to procreate and have children who further the "categorical imperative" (oops! you weren't in philosophy class that day) of humanity and decency.

Hopefully the trend and social Darwinism will drift towards the deeper gene pools and the shallower pools will dry up.

"The thrill is not to kill, but to let live."
Author unknown.


LOL, I would like to retract my previous statement where I tried to defend ponys position...


Hunting and fishing was a means of preservation up until the modern industrial age; even now, someone has to kill the animal which I will buy under the plastic wrap in the market. It's all very sanitary now, but people still want to be fed, and that means animals (and vegetables) must die. Even vegetarians are merciless killers.

One advantage to hunting is developing a little used skill that unfortunately must be applied from time to time, and that is the ability to hit what you aim at. This was especially passed down to many of my generation, who were born just after the big war in Europe. Having your children develop the respect and ability to handle a firearm was just plain American. Now, maybe those same skills are being developed in todays video games by our kids. In any case, when the chips are down, I want our people to have an edge over the other guy who will be pointing his weapon at me.