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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 720630" data-attributes="member: 14668">Obama was born in Hawaii. Last time I checked, Hawaii was part of the United States. Whether or not his mother &quot;qualified&quot; as a citizen under the laws in 1961 is therefore irrelevant.&nbsp;The COLB is a legal record of live birth and is considered prima facie evidence of a persons identity. Furthermore, if it was indeed a forgery and Obama was actually born elsewhere...why were announcements of his birth printed in two different newspapers in Hawaii less than a week after he was born?&nbsp;Whether or not the COLB accurately denotes the race or religion of Obama&#039;s father is irrelevant and has no bearing on the fact that Obama was in fact born in the United States.&nbsp;The problem with continuing to tilt at these windmills is that it deflects attention away from the real issues, which are Obama&#039;s politics and voting record.&nbsp;I dont like the man, but like it or not he is the President and we need to accept that fact and focus on not allowing him to be re elected in 2012.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 720630, member: 14668"] Obama was born in Hawaii. Last time I checked, Hawaii was part of the United States. Whether or not his mother "qualified" as a citizen under the laws in 1961 is therefore [B]irrelevant[/B]. The COLB is a legal record of live birth and is considered prima facie evidence of a persons identity. Furthermore, if it was indeed a forgery and Obama was actually born elsewhere...why were announcements of his birth printed in two different newspapers in Hawaii less than a week after he was born? Whether or not the COLB accurately denotes the race or religion of Obama's father is irrelevant and has no bearing on the fact that Obama was in fact born in the United States. The problem with continuing to tilt at these windmills is that it deflects attention away from the real issues, which are Obama's politics and voting record. I dont like the man, but like it or not he is the President and we need to accept that fact and focus on not allowing him to be re elected in 2012. [/QUOTE]

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