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Message: <blockquote data-quote="klein" data-source="post: 825637" data-attributes="member: 23950">Now, finally my 2 cents worth ! Trinklepinkle :So, you love the fact that the rich are getting richer ? That the top 20% and top 5%, in the past 30 years, have up to quadoupled their income, while the middleclass stayed stagment or even decreased income wise.And how many jobs did that create within the last 30 years ? Plenty - however all overseas, esspecially to Asia. 30 years ago, not only was the middle class better off, but the government was hardly in any debt.The US dollar was still worth over 3 Swiss Franks, now it's not even worth 0.9 Franks. Americans back then could travel to Europe and were always seen as being the "rich Americans" and they sure had plenty of money (due to the currency exchange) to prove it, too ! Some of the browncafe people have been or even lived in Germany temporary (military base). They know they were getting up to 3.50 Deutsch Marks in the early 70's for 1 dollar. Now they would only get a 1:1 exchange if the DM was still around.Simply put: For the average American to travel to Europe or even Austrailia and Canada, has gotten to expensive. And , if they do, they are no longer the big spenders they once were. So, here you are trinklepinkle, justifying $800 Billion for tax cuts for the rich (Bush tax cut extension), while the Republican party tries to slash spending everywhere else, for those in need, and for the middle class. - They almost shut down the government last week, only over $39 Billion. But they found $800 Billion to give to the rich ! They better slash another $760 Billion from the budget soon, just to make up to pay for the rich.That can be done only by cutting SS , Medicare and/or Defence spending, or of course tax the middle class some more. And in the meantime, you can watch that income scale between the middleclass and the top earners widen even much more apart, in the hopes that these rich, made even richer people will eventually want to spend their money and open up new factories in America.Dream on !Apple, Microsoft, Texas Instruments, IBM, etc.... they manufacture all overseas. The only money you'll see the rich spending in the US are for mansions, yachts, imported cars, and migration workers as house and garden keepers. You say where is the motivation to grow a business if they get taxed too much.Well, where is the motivation if they already make enough, and don't need to grow, or risk growing ?Any smart small manufacturer that does want to grow, will definitly look overseas on production first, which in turn will shut down his/her small establishment here. Ever watch "Shark Tank" on TV ?I just did again, this last Friday. They brought an update on a deal (regarding the idea of an elephant toy, being used as a medical despenser for children), well , it's full in production now, and available at all CVS drugstores. All of them being manufactured in China !That female inventor is now, almost overnight, a new multi-millionaire, and I'm sure she is enjoying those nice US tax cuts for the rich ! While you, and all other middle class Americans subsidize her tax breaks.But, yes, maybe she might expand in time, and create more jobs ? - I bet China would like that, too !</blockquote>

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