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<blockquote data-quote="quad decade guy" data-source="post: 4635234" data-attributes="member: 77939"><p>Next time you are at the dealer, look around. Lot's of marble and glass...very palatial especially if it's a new facility. Around here, car dealers are some of the richest folks in town. With shop rates well into 3 figures, you are paying for all that nice stuff. ASE certified? I see lot's of those patches at Pep Boys etc. Now, a middle school flunky can change oil and do a perfectly adequate job....as long as they are TRAINED PROPERLY and SUPERVISED. Just like any nurses aid etc. I would also say a dealership could be more responsible and willing to warranty their work. This can also go the other way. I am a trained and certified aircraft mechanic(A&P). I don't change my own oil anymore. Used to when we were broke. But mainly because of time constraints and disposing of the waste oil is just too difficult. I use my small town local quick lube type place. From my vette on down. I also "supervise" their work. By the way, I've never had an engine failure of any kind using these type places(with vehicles going well into 150k miles). Dealerships? Bought a used F150 from a dealership. On the way home, it flashed a code light and the A/C compressor went out. I fixed the sensor myself and had a local Goodyear shop do the a/c. I then called the owner of the dealership and presented the bill to him. He just asked next time give him the opportunity to fix it. He wrote me a check for $1,100. BTW, that was the 3rd vehicle(2 new) we purchased from his dealership so there's that. My wife has hit at least 2 deer and we always bring body/damage type work to the dealer for warranty aspects and factory parts. Brakes and such? I always do that stuff. I've considered buying a scan tool for my own diagnostics but they are pricey and the cost/break even would be a while not to mention software updates etc. In the end, we don't really have much trouble out of our vehicles and this includes motorcycles(of which I always do all my work and this includes engine building)(as I can build a bike from the crankshaft out).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="quad decade guy, post: 4635234, member: 77939"] Next time you are at the dealer, look around. Lot's of marble and glass...very palatial especially if it's a new facility. Around here, car dealers are some of the richest folks in town. With shop rates well into 3 figures, you are paying for all that nice stuff. ASE certified? I see lot's of those patches at Pep Boys etc. Now, a middle school flunky can change oil and do a perfectly adequate job....as long as they are TRAINED PROPERLY and SUPERVISED. Just like any nurses aid etc. I would also say a dealership could be more responsible and willing to warranty their work. This can also go the other way. I am a trained and certified aircraft mechanic(A&P). I don't change my own oil anymore. Used to when we were broke. But mainly because of time constraints and disposing of the waste oil is just too difficult. I use my small town local quick lube type place. From my vette on down. I also "supervise" their work. By the way, I've never had an engine failure of any kind using these type places(with vehicles going well into 150k miles). Dealerships? Bought a used F150 from a dealership. On the way home, it flashed a code light and the A/C compressor went out. I fixed the sensor myself and had a local Goodyear shop do the a/c. I then called the owner of the dealership and presented the bill to him. He just asked next time give him the opportunity to fix it. He wrote me a check for $1,100. BTW, that was the 3rd vehicle(2 new) we purchased from his dealership so there's that. My wife has hit at least 2 deer and we always bring body/damage type work to the dealer for warranty aspects and factory parts. Brakes and such? I always do that stuff. I've considered buying a scan tool for my own diagnostics but they are pricey and the cost/break even would be a while not to mention software updates etc. In the end, we don't really have much trouble out of our vehicles and this includes motorcycles(of which I always do all my work and this includes engine building)(as I can build a bike from the crankshaft out). [/QUOTE]
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