Photo-enforced stoplights

Discussion in 'UPS Discussions' started by lovethisjob, Nov 6, 2013.

  1. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    I was cruising along today and I might have misjudged a stoplight and, sure enough, the camera flashed, surely capturing my package car's license plate. I spent the rest of the evening worrying about what will come of it. Will UPS pass the ticket along to me, or worse?

    Anyone have any experience with these "PHOTO ENFORCED LIGHTS"?
  2. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member

    I thought the Supremes said they were not constitutional.

    I would report it and be prepared for lots of stale green talk.
  3. 104Feeder

    104Feeder Phoenix Feeder

    In our State they just hand you the ticket and say "take care of it". You really don't have to do anything as they can't serve a Corporation, and if UPS were to identify you they would then have to serve you personally. There is a 180 day time limit so it's possible to run out the clock.
    AZ doesn't allow service by mail.
  4. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    Driver in my center received one and he had to pay the $100 fine out his pocket.
  5. PhatAzz

    PhatAzz Active Member

    In Tennessee the license plate is mounted on the Front bumper. If your tags are mounted on the rear then I would be expecting a note from finance to reimburse for a paid ticket.
    In Tennessee the law enforcement agency cannot use a vehicle number. The photo has to clearly show the license plate.
    In our center we had one vehicle with the tag on the rear. The driver AND the TCD covering his vacation BOTH got hit with speeding camera fines within a few weeks of each other. They had to pay. The Shop promptly moved the tag to the front bumper.
    Hey Barnyard, the pants fit great.
  6. PT Car Washer

    PT Car Washer Well-Known Member

    I got caught by the mobile speed camera. Only think was on road sup was driving but the car and DIAD was in my name. Picture did not show the driver just license plate and truck number. Tried to get me to pay it but sup stuck up for me. Must be a big money maker as they are all over the place now.
  7. UPSGUY72

    UPSGUY72 Well-Known Member

    IF you get a ticket fight it and use the stale green light excuse method when fighting it. You can also fight it by saying it went from green to red without a delay. Those red light camera make more money for the private company running them then the city. A lot of city are getting rid of them because of rear end accidents and the fact the timing of the lights can be change by the private company that monitors the light to increase there profits.
  8. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    PhatAzz, I'm not in Tennessee but our plates are mounted only on the front of the package car. It seemed like the camera flash came from the rear but I'm not sure. I hope this all just goes away. I may just not be called back after peak season since I'm new. Pretty bummed but oh well.
  9. brownmonster

    brownmonster Man of Great Wisdom

    The Supremes? At a red light you should "Stop.....
  10. Indecisi0n

    Indecisi0n Well-Known Member

    ​I can't like that.
  11. Monkey Butt

    Monkey Butt Dark Prince of Double Standards Staff Member

    Gladys Knight carries a lot more weight in Georgia.

    I look at it as just another tax.
    I've had 4 or 5 of them ... of course in my personal car.
  12. barnyard

    barnyard KTM rider Staff Member


    They are not legal here. Must have been our state supreme court.

    Glad the pants fit.
  13. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    Except for that night that the lights went out.

    We had one red light camera. A Virginia based company used a $40K grant to install and maintain the camera. There were so many issues with the camera that it was taken down within two years of being installed.

    To the OP---as a seasonal driver you should bust your butt and hope that mgt overlooks this transgression.
  14. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    Here you pay the ticket. Red light cameras take two pics one where you are when the light turns yellow and another where you are when it turns red, so if you're behind the line when it's yellow and blow through you're getting a ticket.
  15. oldngray

    oldngray nowhere special

    Those red light cameras are notorious for short yellows and if they catch people in middle of intersection with the the light red they give you a ticket. It doesn't matter where you were when the light turned yellow. The companies running those cameras get paid per ticket so they make the yellows illegally short. Many lawsuits over it and the cameras are being removed from many areas.
  16. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    I was almost through the intersection when it flipped to red if I remember. It was just a bad misread on the stale green timing. I'm just hoping this one knucklehead mistake doesn't get me the axe. :sick:
  17. The Driver

    The Driver I drive.

    If I'm not mistaken I think the company that manages these cameras sends photos to the police and then the cops decide whether to send the ticket to the owner or to throw it out. I'm really hoping the police department here just throws it out... Dreaming. I just want to work! Big Brother is really a pain in my ass right now.
  18. Whargoul

    Whargoul Active Member

    They put up one of these lights right at the intersection next to our hub that everyone has to go through. I got a warning letter for not making a complete stop or something at 3am when I was on preload. Quite a few people at the hub told me they got tickets. I'm sure whoever owns it makes a lot of money off all the trucks that come through.
  19. Johney

    Johney Well-Known Member

    I have heard that also.
  20. serenity now

    serenity now Guest

    Had one in my town that got removed because of the short yellow. As soon as it turned yellow, the locals would jam their brakes causing the foreigners off the interstate to nearly run into the back of the locals.