UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/12/27/movie.shooting/index.html
I wonder what he would have done had the guy been on his cell phone.
I wonder what he would have done had the guy been on his cell phone.
Please don't talk during the movie--or else..
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stevetheupsguy
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We prep all of our children, before the movie. No talking/whispering or moving from your seat for the entire movie. We also take up an entire row,
Now that should have been okay, it would have been alright under justifiable homicide.
L.A. man kills family, himself over financial woes
Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:40pm EDT
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A 45-year-old Los Angeles man who was apparently distraught over money troubles shot and killed his wife, three sons and mother-in-law before taking his own life, police said on Monday.
The father of three, who was not immediately identified by authorities, was believed to have shot five members of his family and then himself sometime after 6 p.m. on Saturday, a Los Angeles police spokesman said.
It's "a very tragic scene, total devastation inside this home," Deputy Chief Michael Moore told reporters at a news conference. "Inside the home, officers discovered six bodies, all belonging to the family that lived at this location."
Moore added, "We believe this to be a murder-suicide."
The man, a former employee of major accounting firms who had an MBA in finance but was having trouble finding a job, left three letters in the home detailing his financial difficulties, police said.
"We believe that he has become despondent recently over financial dealings and the financial situation of his household and that this murder-suicide event is a direct result of that," Moore said.
Many people have lost their jobs in recent month in the United States which, like many other countries, is struggling with a growing financial crisis. A government report last week said U.S. employers cut 159,000 nonfarm jobs in September, a ninth straight month of falling employment.
(Reporting by Dan Whitcomb; editing by Mohammad Zargham)
Mon Oct 6, 2008 8:40pm EDT
LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - A 45-year-old Los Angeles man who was apparently distraught over money troubles shot and killed his wife, three sons and mother-in-law before taking his own life, police said on Monday.
The father of three, who was not immediately identified by authorities, was believed to have shot five members of his family and then himself sometime after 6 p.m. on Saturday, a Los Angeles police spokesman said.
It's "a very tragic scene, total devastation inside this home," Deputy Chief Michael Moore told reporters at a news conference. "Inside the home, officers discovered six bodies, all belonging to the family that lived at this location."
Moore added, "We believe this to be a murder-suicide."
The man, a former employee of major accounting firms who had an MBA in finance but was having trouble finding a job, left three letters in the home detailing his financial difficulties, police said.
"We believe that he has become despondent recently over financial dealings and the financial situation of his household and that this murder-suicide event is a direct result of that," Moore said.
Many people have lost their jobs in recent month in the United States which, like many other countries, is struggling with a growing financial crisis. A government report last week said U.S. employers cut 159,000 nonfarm jobs in September, a ninth straight month of falling employment.
(Reporting by Dan Whitcomb; editing by Mohammad Zargham)
Man Kills Family on Lunch Break
Michael Richardson of Newport, KY apparently went on a shooting spree when he came home for lunch killing his wife Joyce, his daughter Sunshine, 18, her 17-year-old boyfriend Phillip Leslie, and the family dog.
Richardson was working at Coral Graphics, a printing company, at about 3 a.m., saying he was going to get some lunch. Richardson went home where neighbors said they heard gunshots around 5:45 a.m.
Richardson's supervisor at the graphics company said he had gotten in trouble for messing up a print machine. Richardson surrendered after about a 2 hour standoff with police.
Michael Richardson of Newport, KY apparently went on a shooting spree when he came home for lunch killing his wife Joyce, his daughter Sunshine, 18, her 17-year-old boyfriend Phillip Leslie, and the family dog.
Richardson was working at Coral Graphics, a printing company, at about 3 a.m., saying he was going to get some lunch. Richardson went home where neighbors said they heard gunshots around 5:45 a.m.
Richardson's supervisor at the graphics company said he had gotten in trouble for messing up a print machine. Richardson surrendered after about a 2 hour standoff with police.
Surprising Fact: Half of Gun Deaths Are Suicides
By MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press | July 1, 2008
ATLANTA � The Supreme Court's landmark ruling on gun ownership last week focused on citizens' ability to defend themselves from intruders in their homes. But research shows that surprisingly often, gun owners use the weapons on themselves.
Suicides accounted for 55% of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths in 2005, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
There was nothing unique about that year � gun-related suicides have outnumbered firearm homicides and accidents for 20 of the last 25 years. In 2005, homicides accounted for 40% of gun deaths. Accidents accounted for 3%. The remaining 2% included legal killings, such as when police do the shooting, and cases that involve undetermined intent.
Public-health researchers have concluded that in homes where guns are present, the likelihood that someone in the home will die from suicide or homicide is much greater.
Studies have also shown that homes in which a suicide occurred were three to five times more likely to have a gun present than households that did not experience a suicide, even after accounting for other risk factors.
In a 5-4 decision, the high court on Thursday struck down a handgun ban enacted in the District of Columbia in 1976 and rejected requirements that firearms have trigger locks or be kept disassembled. The ruling left intact the district's licensing restrictions for gun owners.
One public-health study found that suicide and homicide rates in the district dropped after the ban was adopted. The district has allowed shotguns and rifles to be kept in homes if they are registered, kept unloaded, and taken apart or equipped with trigger locks.
The American Public Health Association, the American Association of Suicidology, and two other groups filed a legal brief supporting the district's ban. The brief challenged arguments that if a gun is not available, suicidal people will just kill themselves using other means.
More than 90% of suicide attempts using guns are successful, while the success rate for jumping from high places was 34%. The success rate for drug overdose was 2%, the brief said, citing studies.
"Other methods are not as lethal," a co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore, Jon Vernick, said.
The high court's majority opinion made no mention of suicide. But in a dissenting opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer used the word 14 times in voicing concern about the impact of striking down the handgun ban.
"If a resident has a handgun in the home that he can use for self-defense, then he has a handgun in the home that he can use to commit suicide or engage in acts of domestic violence," Justice Breyer wrote.
Researchers in other fields have raised questions about the public-health findings on guns.
A researcher at Florida State University's College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Gary Kleck, estimates there are more than 1 million incidents each year in which firearms are used to prevent an actual or threatened criminal attack.
Public-health experts have said the telephone survey methodology Mr. Kleck used likely resulted in an overestimate.
By MIKE STOBBE, Associated Press | July 1, 2008
ATLANTA � The Supreme Court's landmark ruling on gun ownership last week focused on citizens' ability to defend themselves from intruders in their homes. But research shows that surprisingly often, gun owners use the weapons on themselves.
Suicides accounted for 55% of the nation's nearly 31,000 firearm deaths in 2005, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
There was nothing unique about that year � gun-related suicides have outnumbered firearm homicides and accidents for 20 of the last 25 years. In 2005, homicides accounted for 40% of gun deaths. Accidents accounted for 3%. The remaining 2% included legal killings, such as when police do the shooting, and cases that involve undetermined intent.
Public-health researchers have concluded that in homes where guns are present, the likelihood that someone in the home will die from suicide or homicide is much greater.
Studies have also shown that homes in which a suicide occurred were three to five times more likely to have a gun present than households that did not experience a suicide, even after accounting for other risk factors.
In a 5-4 decision, the high court on Thursday struck down a handgun ban enacted in the District of Columbia in 1976 and rejected requirements that firearms have trigger locks or be kept disassembled. The ruling left intact the district's licensing restrictions for gun owners.
One public-health study found that suicide and homicide rates in the district dropped after the ban was adopted. The district has allowed shotguns and rifles to be kept in homes if they are registered, kept unloaded, and taken apart or equipped with trigger locks.
The American Public Health Association, the American Association of Suicidology, and two other groups filed a legal brief supporting the district's ban. The brief challenged arguments that if a gun is not available, suicidal people will just kill themselves using other means.
More than 90% of suicide attempts using guns are successful, while the success rate for jumping from high places was 34%. The success rate for drug overdose was 2%, the brief said, citing studies.
"Other methods are not as lethal," a co-director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research in Baltimore, Jon Vernick, said.
The high court's majority opinion made no mention of suicide. But in a dissenting opinion, Justice Stephen Breyer used the word 14 times in voicing concern about the impact of striking down the handgun ban.
"If a resident has a handgun in the home that he can use for self-defense, then he has a handgun in the home that he can use to commit suicide or engage in acts of domestic violence," Justice Breyer wrote.
Researchers in other fields have raised questions about the public-health findings on guns.
A researcher at Florida State University's College of Criminology and Criminal Justice, Gary Kleck, estimates there are more than 1 million incidents each year in which firearms are used to prevent an actual or threatened criminal attack.
Public-health experts have said the telephone survey methodology Mr. Kleck used likely resulted in an overestimate.
tourists24
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did someone just hijack this thread?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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TOS, please do me a favor--if you want to present your unique views on life and our world, start your own thread. If not, either stick to the subject at hand or, better yet, don't comment and move on.
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Yep. It's that anti-gun fool again.
LiL"Comet"
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och that's not funny!! ok it was
LMAO 
didn't mean to laugh TOS just it's always about guns with you, and no disrespect we all have our own soap boxes.
stevetheupsguy
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and I'm only anti bad guy with gun.I'm only anti-the other guys gun
ol'browneye
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TOS, get a life!
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That would definitely be a more interesting argument. Like pulling teeth from a live great white with UPS on cost effectiveness.Lets talk about UPS trucks without 3-point seat belts instead!!!
stringerman85
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It may be a joke to some people, but this could happen to anybody at the wrong place at the wrong time, crazy ass people
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