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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 1025886" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p><strong>Re: Comparison: Last, Best & Final to Pre-strike proposals</strong></p><p></p><p>pretzel_man;</p><p></p><p>While I respect your opinion, the fact is that I *KNOW* - got that? - "know" - that "Sober" *IS* a liar! It's not something i "heard", or I "assume", or "presume", or even "guess". Rather, I *KNOW* that he *IS* a liar BASED ON FIRST HAND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE! And, again, if he's NOT a liar, then it would be easy enough for him to simply prove it. All he would have to do is demonstrate WHO I am, and HOW he "knows" it. Correspondingly, in the context of a public forum in which I wish to maintain my essential privacy, I don't know what more I could over and above what I've ALREADY DONE to "prove" who and what I am in terms of work experience. I say that given the fact that there is a more-than-a-decade long record of posts here and on other Teamster-associated boards, by myself and others, which have pretty much documented my work experience with UPS. Just this week I believe that a poster here, although exaggerating, complained about my "15 year" record of such posts. And, as I've said several times now, the handle I've used on other boards is far from a "state secret". One would have to be close to brain-dead not to be able to discover that for one's self. Ask people that are not particularly my supporters by any means (say "Big Union Guy" and such) who frequent other boards and get them to privately agree with "Sobers" claim of who I am, or what my work experience is. I think it won't take you long to discover the truth of the matter. The fact is that "Sober" DOESN'T KNOW ME FROM ADAM! He MADE THE WHOLE THING UP!</p><p></p><p>That said, my "attacks" on "Sober" aren't personal by nature; what makes them "personal" is that he PERSONALLY deliberately took it upon himself to LIE ABOUT ME! That was HIS choice. HE chose to LIE! And I'm not going to sit idly by while some ethically handicapped individual like that besmirches my name. Believe it or not, INTEGRITY MATTERS! It's no laughing matter...even on a board such as Brown Cafe. And if those like you choose not to support it, then eventually I suspect its lack will come back to bite you in the behind. After all, if you don't demand integrity when individuals are speaking of other people, then what's to stop similarly morally deficient individuals from lying about YOU?</p><p></p><p>In any case, as long as I'm able, I'm going to continue attacking ANY individual who lies about me. If they, or you, don't like it, then may I suggest that simply STOP THE LYING, from whatever source it spews forth from!</p><p></p><p>Sound like a plan?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 1025886, member: 16651"] [b]Re: Comparison: Last, Best & Final to Pre-strike proposals[/b] pretzel_man; While I respect your opinion, the fact is that I *KNOW* - got that? - "know" - that "Sober" *IS* a liar! It's not something i "heard", or I "assume", or "presume", or even "guess". Rather, I *KNOW* that he *IS* a liar BASED ON FIRST HAND PERSONAL EXPERIENCE! And, again, if he's NOT a liar, then it would be easy enough for him to simply prove it. All he would have to do is demonstrate WHO I am, and HOW he "knows" it. Correspondingly, in the context of a public forum in which I wish to maintain my essential privacy, I don't know what more I could over and above what I've ALREADY DONE to "prove" who and what I am in terms of work experience. I say that given the fact that there is a more-than-a-decade long record of posts here and on other Teamster-associated boards, by myself and others, which have pretty much documented my work experience with UPS. Just this week I believe that a poster here, although exaggerating, complained about my "15 year" record of such posts. And, as I've said several times now, the handle I've used on other boards is far from a "state secret". One would have to be close to brain-dead not to be able to discover that for one's self. Ask people that are not particularly my supporters by any means (say "Big Union Guy" and such) who frequent other boards and get them to privately agree with "Sobers" claim of who I am, or what my work experience is. I think it won't take you long to discover the truth of the matter. The fact is that "Sober" DOESN'T KNOW ME FROM ADAM! He MADE THE WHOLE THING UP! That said, my "attacks" on "Sober" aren't personal by nature; what makes them "personal" is that he PERSONALLY deliberately took it upon himself to LIE ABOUT ME! That was HIS choice. HE chose to LIE! And I'm not going to sit idly by while some ethically handicapped individual like that besmirches my name. Believe it or not, INTEGRITY MATTERS! It's no laughing matter...even on a board such as Brown Cafe. And if those like you choose not to support it, then eventually I suspect its lack will come back to bite you in the behind. After all, if you don't demand integrity when individuals are speaking of other people, then what's to stop similarly morally deficient individuals from lying about YOU? In any case, as long as I'm able, I'm going to continue attacking ANY individual who lies about me. If they, or you, don't like it, then may I suggest that simply STOP THE LYING, from whatever source it spews forth from! Sound like a plan? [/QUOTE]
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