Politics and Upper management

Myort

Well-Known Member
Does anyone wonder if the political climate of this country has anything to do with the attitude upper management has towards hourly workers at Express. Let's face it, most in the upper management ranks are likely hard core republicans. And it seems Republicans have an extreme hatred towards Barack Obama, the bitterness after the latest election was sad. Not to get too off topic here about politics, but many of the typical talking points about so-called Obama voters paint them as a bunch of freeloaders who have no education. You remember the stuff said after the election like "People chose free stuff over freedom." and all that stuff?

Do you think Upper Management sees the typical hourly worker as one of the "lowly Obama voters?"
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
Does anyone wonder if the political climate of this country has anything to do with the attitude upper management has towards hourly workers at Express. Let's face it, most in the upper management ranks are likely hard core republicans. And it seems Republicans have an extreme hatred towards Barack Obama, the bitterness after the latest election was sad. Not to get too off topic here about politics, but many of the typical talking points about so-called Obama voters paint them as a bunch of freeloaders who have no education. You remember the stuff said after the election like "People chose free stuff over freedom." and all that stuff?

Do you think Upper Management sees the typical hourly worker as one of the "lowly Obama voters?"
I definitely think this is the case. During the last presidential election at my station there was definitely an undertone from management that we all should be voting for Robme and if we didn't our jobs would be negatively affected by that choice. To this day I still can't believe how much control this company tries to exert on it's employees. Even as to " suggest" who they should vote for.
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
I definitely think this is the case. During the last presidential election at my station there was definitely an undertone from management that we all should be voting for Robme and if we didn't our jobs would be negatively affected by that choice. To this day I still can't believe how much control this company tries to exert on it's employees. Even as to " suggest" who they should vote for.
That's because Smith is one of (if not the) biggest control freaks in America. That's a big reason he hasn't sold FedEx, retired and enjoyed his billions and let someone else worry about the RLA, unions etc.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Does anyone wonder if the political climate of this country has anything to do with the attitude upper management has towards hourly workers at Express. Let's face it, most in the upper management ranks are likely hard core republicans. And it seems Republicans have an extreme hatred towards Barack Obama, the bitterness after the latest election was sad. Not to get too off topic here about politics, but many of the typical talking points about so-called Obama voters paint them as a bunch of freeloaders who have no education. You remember the stuff said after the election like "People chose free stuff over freedom." and all that stuff?

Do you think Upper Management sees the typical hourly worker as one of the "lowly Obama voters?"

Yes. GOP all the way. Unions and the workers are the enemy to the aristocrats of the 1%.
 

thedownhillEXPRESS

Well-Known Member
They are definitely using politics to blame all the takeaways from the Express division.
Don't even try to pretend the real reason is that they are shifting everything to the "Ground Slum", which is the Republican dream.
No employees , taxes or liabilities but all the control and profit that goes along with it.
 

Sniper

Well-Known Member
The ONE thing Obummer could have pushed 2008-2009 was the FAA bill that gave US a VOTE. The language was in the bill the dems had the house and senate. Our managers were going to MEM for "training" so we wouldn't sign a card...it was that close. The democrats were too busy screwing up our health care to worry about the "working folks".

I have always been a Republican and will die one.....but I would like a voice in the matter (vote).

I have never been a big union supporter UNTIL FedEx stole our pension....but it's too late now. Our pilots have the best of both worlds. I wonder if they would like 70,000 more members in their union?? lol...
 

Cactus

Just telling it like it is
The ONE thing Obummer could have pushed 2008-2009 was the FAA bill that gave US a VOTE. The language was in the bill the dems had the house and senate. Our managers were going to MEM for "training" so we wouldn't sign a card...it was that close. The democrats were too busy screwing up our health care to worry about the "working folks".
100% correct.
 

Sniper

Well-Known Member
Yes, We actually have an intelligent president that is still undoing the damage from his predecessor. At FedEx? We are much worse off.

MrFedEx, I have agreed with most of your posts until this one.

We have an Idiot in the Oval Office with ZERO leadership ability that is trying his very best to destroy the United States as we know it. He is doing a fine job of that.

He has destabilized the entire world, especially the middle east.

The Bible is coming true before our eyes.

I'm sure I will get "trashed" for this post but that's why my Mama said never talk religion and politics or someone will get mad.

Freedom of speech and different views are a large part of what makes us Americans. I respect your views but disagree totally.

As far as FedEx is concerned our health care is covering less and costing more because of Obama care so I will concede that we are worse off at FedEx than we were 5 years ago. I have read that UPS health insurance no longer covers spouses but I don't know that for a fact. The unions were backing Obummer all the way and Obama care is how he pays his debts to them.

I hope everyone likes the "change"... :vacuumsm: I personally think it sucks....but again FREEDOM of speech.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
MrFedEx, I have agreed with most of your posts until this one.

We have an Idiot in the Oval Office with ZERO leadership ability that is trying his very best to destroy the United States as we know it. He is doing a fine job of that.

He has destabilized the entire world, especially the middle east.

The Bible is coming true before our eyes.

I'm sure I will get "trashed" for this post but that's why my Mama said never talk religion and politics or someone will get mad.

Freedom of speech and different views are a large part of what makes us Americans. I respect your views but disagree totally.

As far as FedEx is concerned our health care is covering less and costing more because of Obama care so I will concede that we are worse off at FedEx than we were 5 years ago. I have read that UPS health insurance no longer covers spouses but I don't know that for a fact. The unions were backing Obummer all the way and Obama care is how he pays his debts to them.

I hope everyone likes the "change"... :vacuumsm: I personally think it sucks....but again FREEDOM of speech.

vantexan has left the building, and here you are...another Right Wing supporter who watches FOX and thinks Obama is a Commie trying to "socialize" the USA. The Bible has nothing to do with it. Oh, and starting a couple of wars and pissing-off the rest of the world with unimaginable cowboy ignorance wasn't destabilizing?
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
Yes, We actually have an intelligent president that is still undoing the damage from his predecessor. At FedEx? We are much worse off.

MrFedEx, I have agreed with most of your posts until this one.

We have an Idiot in the Oval Office with ZERO leadership ability that is trying his very best to destroy the United States as we know it. He is doing a fine job of that.

He has destabilized the entire world, especially the middle east.

The Bible is coming true before our eyes.

I'm sure I will get "trashed" for this post but that's why my Mama said never talk religion and politics or someone will get mad.

Freedom of speech and different views are a large part of what makes us Americans. I respect your views but disagree totally.

As far as FedEx is concerned our health care is covering less and costing more because of Obama care so I will concede that we are worse off at FedEx than we were 5 years ago. I have read that UPS health insurance no longer covers spouses but I don't know that for a fact. The unions were backing Obummer all the way and Obama care is how he pays his debts to them.

I hope everyone likes the "change"... :vacuumsm: I personally think it sucks....but again FREEDOM of speech.
Sounds like you bought into Fedex's excuses, aka republican garbage , hook, line and sinker. First off, the UPS health coverage for spouses has not changed for the union workers only non union staff. Our ins is changing because FedEx can at will change it. How much money do you think FedEx saves by being self insured? Secondly, if you are topped out that's great. But what about the majority of us mid range who will never see top range? I'm sorry I could care less about jumpseat when I'm trying to just make ends meet and keep up with inflation.
 

Sniper

Well-Known Member
Sounds like me and vantexan would get along ok...lol

Thank you for correcting me on UPS insurance...as I stated, I don't know for a fact because I don't work there.

Yes the mid range employees have a legitimate complaint. I know this for a fact because my wife is one of the 17+ year employees and she is not topped out and working just as hard as I am.

I haven't even read any of the propaganda about the new health care changes. I do know it will cost more and we will get less. That is because anytime government gets involved it will cost more and you will get less for your money.

As far as the middle east situation goes we are there under Bush and Obama for one reason. Oil. Like it or not...there it is.

Israel could clean house in a matter of months, not years and we could spit the oil with them. Survival of the fittest.
 

bigbird00

Active Member
Sniper,Barack is in over his head for sure.He is a professional community organiser thats it no more.The employer mandate with Obama care was waved until 2015,but our boy Fred seen an opprotunity to save 56 million so he just started a year early.Did we notice they havn't said what the monthly cost is gonna be on the knew and O so wonderfull plan?
 

Sniper

Well-Known Member
Sniper,Barack is in over his head for sure.He is a professional community organiser thats it no more.The employer mandate with Obama care was waved until 2015,but our boy Fred seen an opprotunity to save 56 million so he just started a year early.Did we notice they havn't said what the monthly cost is gonna be on the knew and O so wonderfull plan?

I totally agree.

Alas... I just wish MEM would realize WHO made this company what it is today.

WE did and are still doing it day in day out.
 

MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Sniper,Barack is in over his head for sure.He is a professional community organiser thats it no more.The employer mandate with Obama care was waved until 2015,but our boy Fred seen an opprotunity to save 56 million so he just started a year early.Did we notice they havn't said what the monthly cost is gonna be on the knew and O so wonderfull plan?

I agree that Obamacare is problematical. The big reason they put off the employer mandate until 2015 was so Democrats wouldn't be hurt in the mid-term election cycle. That isn't good news. And yes, our beloved Fred has seen another opportunity to save money by throwing us under the bus. The monthly cost of the plans is roughly the same, but the real-life cost for anyone with medical conditions that require a specialist will be huge. If you can get away with just seeing your PCP for routine physicals and the like, you won't really feel it, but someone with a chronic health condition in the family is totally screwed.
 

fedupped

Well-Known Member
Chronic?..One kid with a torn ligament and you are out 4400. Single people will be ok. Families...well, your screwed. Fedex, we're one big happy FAMILY.
 

MAKAVELI

Well-Known Member
Sounds like me and vantexan would get along ok...lol

Thank you for correcting me on UPS insurance...as I stated, I don't know for a fact because I don't work there.

Yes the mid range employees have a legitimate complaint. I know this for a fact because my wife is one of the 17+ year employees and she is not topped out and working just as hard as I am.

I haven't even read any of the propaganda about the new health care changes. I do know it will cost more and we will get less. That is because anytime government gets involved it will cost more and you will get less for your money.

As far as the middle east situation goes we are there under Bush and Obama for one reason. Oil. Like it or not...there it is.

Israel could clean house in a matter of months, not years and we could spit the oil with them. Survival of the fittest.
We don't need their oil. We are producing more of our own then ever before. Along with continued development of renewable resources , and technology to reduce the demand of oil, we could be independent of foreign oil in the future. I'm sorry but most republicans are just falling behind the times and trying to hold on to arguments from 5 years ago when technology is advancing at an amazing pace. There was an excellent piece on 60 minutes last weekend about how technology has eliminated the need for a lot of jobs in the US and is a big reason for the slow pace of decreasing unemployment.
 
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