Poor Ground guys…

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Contrary to what DeJohn believes the USPS is not a business. It's a public service. The rural areas are the ones who will suffer at the hands of this action and DeJohn makes no attempt to hide that fact.

When Bezos announced that he would deliver his own junk he was only taking the easy in town stuff and Fat Freddy told him to go pound salt. Bottom line.....Don't build a house out in the god da*m*ed sticks. The essential services one would expect in order to make life out there tolerable will become scarce , expensive and slow to arrive.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Contrary to what DeJohn believes the USPS is not a business. It's a public service. The rural areas are the ones who will suffer at the hands of this action and DeJohn makes no attempt to hide that fact.

When Bezos announced that he would deliver his own junk he was only taking the easy in town stuff and Fat Freddy told him to go pound salt. Bottom line.....Don't build a house out in the god da*m*ed sticks. The essential services one would expect in order to make life out there tolerable will become scarce , expensive and slow to arrive.
Living out in the sticks is worth it if you don't have to listen to people who like to tell you where you should live.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Living out in the sticks is worth it if you don't have to listen to people who like to tell you where you should live.
I don't live in the sticks but I live in a rural area. Slower mail service, no volunteer fireman or ambulance drivers, no bus drivers, reduction in type and nature of medical services local community hospitals can offer. Nobody to mow cemeteries so municipalities have to maintain them as best they can with their minimum resources. These days you can only position yourself just so far removed from the mainstream of commerce and trade and not feel the impact of it. What DeJohn wants to do with the USPS is just one in a long list of service reductions rural America has been experiencing for the past years and will continue in the years to come.
 

zeev

Well-Known Member
Big strike against FedEx postal contract 5 day window takes freight off planes puts them on trucks.
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
I don't live in the sticks but I live in a rural area. Slower mail service, no volunteer fireman or ambulance drivers, no bus drivers, reduction in type and nature of medical services local community hospitals can offer. Nobody to mow cemeteries so municipalities have to maintain them as best they can with their minimum resources. These days you can only position yourself just so far removed from the mainstream of commerce and trade and not feel the impact of it. What DeJohn wants to do with the USPS is just one in a long list of service reductions rural America has been experiencing for the past years and will continue in the years to come.
How horrible that you will have to wait an additional day or two for your junk mail to arrive! You should have signed up for AARP the first time they sent you a membership offer.
 

BadLarry238

Your Hero
Contrary to what DeJohn believes the USPS is not a business. It's a public service. The rural areas are the ones who will suffer at the hands of this action and DeJohn makes no attempt to hide that fact.

When Bezos announced that he would deliver his own junk he was only taking the easy in town stuff and Fat Freddy told him to go pound salt. Bottom line.....Don't build a house out in the god da*m*ed sticks. The essential services one would expect in order to make life out there tolerable will become scarce , expensive and slow to arrive.
You are definitely a shining example of what is defined as a "government dependent" You wouldn't survive 2 minutes on your own...lol
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
I don't live in the sticks but I live in a rural area. Slower mail service, no volunteer fireman or ambulance drivers, no bus drivers, reduction in type and nature of medical services local community hospitals can offer. Nobody to mow cemeteries so municipalities have to maintain them as best they can with their minimum resources. These days you can only position yourself just so far removed from the mainstream of commerce and trade and not feel the impact of it. What DeJohn wants to do with the USPS is just one in a long list of service reductions rural America has been experiencing for the past years and will continue in the years to come.
Oh please. I've worked in much more rural areas than what you described and people get along just fine. You don't seem to understand independence, think everyone wants services when they're fine fending for themselves.
 

Star B

White Lightening
Living out in the sticks is worth it if you don't have to listen to people who like to tell you where you should live.
then dont whine when you dont get the comforts of urban living, like most yuppies do when they want a "piece of the country life".
 

abused.crr

Well-Known Member
I grew up in the near suburbs to a very large city. I live out in the country now. My neighbors still have 2020 political signs in their yard, they’re highly government subsidized, and they’re against immigration but they hire a bunch of migrant workers… my neighbors are farmers.

What was the topic of this thread, I can’t even remember.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Oh please. I've worked in much more rural areas than what you described and people get along just fine. You don't seem to understand independence, think everyone wants services when they're fine fending for themselves.
Wrong. The USPS is not a company. It is a public service . As people are going out to the rural areas due to the ability to work remotely they will still need reliable a reasonably speedy USPS service. DeJohn's idea of "saving" the USPS is something anybody can do. You simply shortchange the segment of the population that is least able to fight back.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You are definitely a shining example of what is defined as a "government dependent" You wouldn't survive 2 minutes on your own...lol
I'm 68 years old and dealt quite successfully with everything rural to has to hand out. Now remember something here. When Bezos started his own trucking line it was the clear and obvious intent to take only the easy in town stuff while leaving the money losing boonie boxes to whoever else wanted them. Fat Freddy to his credit told Bezos to go pound salt leaving it to the other 2 main carriers. Now if transit times with the USPS becomes unacceptably slow will Bezos accept that service, find another carrier or expand his own delivery network?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Wrong. The USPS is not a company. It is a public service . As people are going out to the rural areas due to the ability to work remotely they will still need reliable a reasonably speedy USPS service. DeJohn's idea of "saving" the USPS is something anybody can do. You simply shortchange the segment of the population that is least able to fight back.
I worked in remote Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico. A lot of "lone eagles" who ran businesses out of their homes and depended on FedEx, not the Post Office. Fact is people live in such areas because that's where they want to be, not because they have to. Satellite tv, satellite radio, cellphone service, FedEx delivery, solar panels all have contributed greatly to giving people options. Elon Musk's new satellite internet company will make it possible to live just about anywhere and get super high speed internet. Actually works better in low population areas.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
I worked in remote Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico. A lot of "lone eagles" who ran businesses out of their homes and depended on FedEx, not the Post Office. Fact is people live in such areas because that's where they want to be, not because they have to. Satellite tv, satellite radio, cellphone service, FedEx delivery, solar panels all have contributed greatly to giving people options. Elon Musk's new satellite internet company will make it possible to live just about anywhere and get super high speed internet. Actually works better in low population areas.
The USPS is a public service . operates as such and is therefore the carrier of the last resort. Not the same as FDX whose stock has fallen 100 bucks a share from it's previous high.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
The USPS is a public service . operates as such and is therefore the carrier of the last resort. Not the same as FDX whose stock has fallen 100 bucks a share from it's previous high.
So? When you operated a Ground rt it wasn't the Post Office that people working out of their homes depended on for time sensitive documents. It was, and I imagine still is, primarily Express. There will always be those who go the cheap route but if you had a bid, a proposal, a contract to sign, etc it more times than not was an Express courier delivering and picking up to/from you. And it is your beloved government that's failing you with USPS, not Amazon, not UPS, not FedEx. Ah, capitalism.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
So? When you operated a Ground rt it wasn't the Post Office that people working out of their homes depended on for time sensitive documents. It was, and I imagine still is, primarily Express. There will always be those who go the cheap route but if you had a bid, a proposal, a contract to sign, etc it more times than not was an Express courier delivering and picking up to/from you. And it is your beloved government that's failing you with USPS, not Amazon, not UPS, not FedEx. Ah, capitalism.
Once again you're trying to place a public service (USPS) in the same group as private enterprise operations which are organized and regulated under different rules.
Couple of months ago a guy mentioned to me about UPS or FDX taking over (USPS) operations. My response? " Do you really think Fat Freddy's going to lug your first class letter from Boise to Boston for $0.55? Put a 5 to the left of that decimal point and he might think about it."

Speaking of "beloved government" how's it doing with being encumbered with the task of picking up your old man's hospital bills? After all it was his responsibility to see to it that he made enough money over the course of his lifetime to pay his bills rung up during the back end of his years. Isn't that what "conservativism" is all about? Right now his bills are being paid courtesy of liberalism. Just think of the payment pressures he would be facing today if Bob Dole had succeeded in his efforts to get the Medicare Bill back into committee where he believed had the chance to kill it. BTW, who's taking care of the extremely elderly Bob Dole these days?

Oh that's right. According to you any government program that you or your direct family members can draw benefits from is fine and dandy. Those that you don't qualify for is "socialism" and needs to be abolished.

If it wasn't for the benefits so called "conservatives" are currently drawing they would find themselves too busy trying to survive rather than sitting around watching Fox News s all day..
 

Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
Once again you're trying to place a public service (USPS) in the same group as private enterprise operations which are organized and regulated under different rules.
Couple of months ago a guy mentioned to me about UPS or FDX taking over (USPS) operations. My response? " Do you really think Fat Freddy's going to lug your first class letter from Boise to Boston for $0.55? Put a 5 to the left of that decimal point and he might think about it."

Speaking of "beloved government" how's it doing with being encumbered with the task of picking up your old man's hospital bills? After all it was his responsibility to see to it that he made enough money over the course of his lifetime to pay his bills rung up during the back end of his years. Isn't that what "conservativism" is all about? Right now his bills are being paid courtesy of liberalism. Just think of the payment pressures he would be facing today if Bob Dole had succeeded in his efforts to get the Medicare Bill back into committee where he believed had the chance to kill it. BTW, who's taking care of the extremely elderly Bob Dole these days?

Oh that's right. According to you any government program that you or your direct family members can draw benefits from is fine and dandy. Those that you don't qualify for is "socialism" and needs to be abolished.

If it wasn't for the benefits so called "conservatives" are currently drawing they would find themselves too busy trying to survive rather than sitting around watching Fox News s all day..
Tripe.
 
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