Populist Politics

[Meat]

Five of the last seven presidential administrations based their campaigns on populist politics (the exception being Bush Jr.).

Taking this into consideration, why isn’t the middle-class doing better.

For instance, the incumbent is truly a man of the people, and his policy measures undoubtedly reflect that.

And yet, during his presidency, wages have only increased by approximately one percent in real terms. What gives?

And wasn’t Obama going to “Change” things?

I’m extremely patriotic, and have a lot of faith in the electoral process, but I’m beginning to think there may not be much difference between the two parties on matters of economics.

Oh well. Social issues are pretty important, too...I guess.

 

[quad decade guy]

Five of the last seven presidential administrations based their campaigns on populist politics (the exception being Bush Jr.).

Taking this into consideration, why isn’t the middle-class doing better.

For instance, the incumbent is truly a man of the people, and his policy measures undoubtedly reflect that.

And yet, during his presidency, wages have only increased by approximately one percent in real terms. What gives?

And wasn’t Obama going to “Change” things?

I’m extremely patriotic, and have a lot of faith in the electoral process, but I’m beginning to think there may not be much difference between the two parties on matters of economics.

Oh well. Social issues are pretty important, too...I guess.

Ok. What gives? Refine your questions. Consider how many obstacles Trump faces just from the Democrats. Just stop and consider. He's fighting a party doing everything it can to destroy the country. There will always be the rich and poor and something in-between. The one true common thread woven through is......freedom.

 

[SLW]

Ok. What gives? Refine your questions. Consider how many obstacles Trump faces just from the Democrats. Just stop and consider. He's fighting a party doing everything it can to destroy the country. There will always be the rich and poor and something in-between. The one true common thread woven through is......freedom.

That could easily be said (and always is) about every executive when the opposing party controls at least one other branch. It's still a valid point, but it's not the only or even primary reason why nothing gets done to benefit the working class.

 

[rickyb]

Five of the last seven presidential administrations based their campaigns on populist politics (the exception being Bush Jr.).

Taking this into consideration, why isn’t the middle-class doing better.

For instance, the incumbent is truly a man of the people, and his policy measures undoubtedly reflect that.

And yet, during his presidency, wages have only increased by approximately one percent in real terms. What gives?

And wasn’t Obama going to “Change” things?

I’m extremely patriotic, and have a lot of faith in the electoral process, but I’m beginning to think there may not be much difference between the two parties on matters of economics.

Oh well. Social issues are pretty important, too...I guess.

your faith has been misplaced. democrats sold out to corporate money starting with bill clinton. republicans fell before that. bill clinton and obama were faux liberals, they use feel your pain language but serve corporate power. trump debatably has been the most corrupt administration of all time, regardless hes been terribly corrupt. it doesnt matter who wins, goldman sachs wins either way. DNC crush less corrupt politicians like bernie. both parties crush 3rd parties. its time for a new labour militancy in the streets, or u will end up with a corporate police state, tyranny, and neo feudalism.

 

[Meat]

Ok. What gives? Refine your questions. Consider how many obstacles Trump faces just from the Democrats. Just stop and consider. He's fighting a party doing everything it can to destroy the country. There will always be the rich and poor and something in-between. The one true common thread woven through is......freedom.

The people I know preoccupied with the concept of freedom are 40 somethings with exorbitant credit debt, and twenty-five-year-old managers (they invariably have to kiss their asses). Freedom woo hoo!

 

[Meat]

your faith has been misplaced. democrats sold out to corporate money starting with bill clinton. republicans fell before that. bill clinton and obama were faux liberals, they use feel your pain language but serve corporate power. trump debatably has been the most corrupt administration of all time, regardless hes been terribly corrupt. it doesnt matter who wins, goldman sachs wins either way. DNC crush less corrupt politicians like bernie. both parties crush 3rd parties. its time for a new labour militancy in the streets, or u will end up with a corporate police state, tyranny, and neo feudalism.

My faith? Perhaps I should have typed some of my post in red!

 

[newfie]

My faith? Perhaps I should have typed some of my post in red!

damn even ricky is kicking your ass

 

[Meat]

damn even ricky is kicking your ass

Reread my reply, genius.

 

[Serf]

Five of the last seven presidential administrations based their campaigns on populist politics (the exception being Bush Jr.).

Taking this into consideration, why isn’t the middle-class doing better.

For instance, the incumbent is truly a man of the people, and his policy measures undoubtedly reflect that.

And yet, during his presidency, wages have only increased by approximately one percent in real terms. What gives?

And wasn’t Obama going to “Change” things?

I’m extremely patriotic, and have a lot of faith in the electoral process, but I’m beginning to think there may not be much difference between the two parties on matters of economics.

Oh well. Social issues are pretty important, too...I guess.

Because modern politics panders to the lowest common denominator minority outlier groups in the country. Purely social issues. Nothing of any substance gets accomplished. Ever. Or at least not since WW2

 

[fishtm2001]

He lost me at " .....the incumbent is truly a man of the people".

 

[fishtm2001]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1319723264927649792

 

[quad decade guy]

That could easily be said (and always is) about every executive when the opposing party controls at least one other branch. It's still a valid point, but it's not the only or even primary reason why nothing gets done to benefit the working class.

Ok.

Who owes you? Why? Says who? YOU control your destiny. Nobody owes you anything. What is this "primary reason"? Serious question.

 

[quad decade guy]

your faith has been misplaced. democrats sold out to corporate money starting with bill clinton. republicans fell before that. bill clinton and obama were faux liberals, they use feel your pain language but serve corporate power. trump debatably has been the most corrupt administration of all time, regardless hes been terribly corrupt. it doesnt matter who wins, goldman sachs wins either way. DNC crush less corrupt politicians like bernie. both parties crush 3rd parties. its time for a new labour militancy in the streets, or u will end up with a corporate police state, tyranny, and neo feudalism.

See, you think Bernie isn't corrupt says the "politician" "socialist" working on his 4th house. Look around friend. It's already here.

 

[quad decade guy]

The people I know preoccupied with the concept of freedom are 40 somethings with exorbitant credit debt, and twenty-five-year-old managers (they invariably have to kiss their asses). Freedom woo hoo!

Well, I'm neither. "concept of freedom". Tell me more. Why isn't EVERYONE "preoccupied with the concept of freedom"?

 

[SLW]

Ok.

Who owes you? Why? Says who? YOU control your destiny. Nobody owes you anything. What is this "primary reason"? Serious question.

I agree, but that "YOU" is more effective when it's collective, and you get what you fight for (eg our union). The wealthy know this and rationally use the ultimate collective power of our republic to protect and expand their material interests, which almost always means less rights and freedoms for the working class.

 

[rickyb]

See, you think Bernie isn't corrupt says the "politician" "socialist" working on his 4th house. Look around friend. It's already here.

i said less corrupt. bernie wont do anything about the empire, and he still goes to bat for biden and hillary.

 

[rickyb]

Because modern politics panders to the lowest common denominator minority outlier groups in the country. Purely social issues. Nothing of any substance gets accomplished. Ever. Or at least not since WW2

nonsense. the govt used to work up until the 1980s

 

[rickyb]

Ok.

Who owes you? Why? Says who? YOU control your destiny. Nobody owes you anything. What is this "primary reason"? Serious question.

the wealthy sure act like someone owes them something; they got up to 10 trillion from govt in this crisis!

 

[BrownFlush]

I agree, but that "YOU" is more effective when it's collective, and you get what you fight for (eg our union). The wealthy know this and rationally use the ultimate collective power of our republic to protect and expand their material interests, which almost always means less rights and freedoms for the working class.

The wealthy.
Ohhhh those wealthy ba****ds!
Wait..a poor man has never given me a paycheck.

 

[rickyb]

I agree, but that "YOU" is more effective when it's collective, and you get what you fight for (eg our union). The wealthy know this and rationally use the ultimate collective power of our republic to protect and expand their material interests, which almost always means less rights and freedoms for the working class.

yea its all about divide and conquer and its been getting worse! they turn us into spectators instead of forces of change.