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<blockquote data-quote="wkmac" data-source="post: 1045214" data-attributes="member: 2189"><p>If god hardened Pharaoh's heart, why should god not also have a hand in Herod's action? You mean Jesus came to be among us for the greater purpose of man's salvation and yet it was pure chance that he was executed to fulfill that mission? </p><p></p><p>Even Paul understood that god intertwined himself in the affairs of man in order to derive an outcome.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>How did Jesus seem to know what his purpose and outcome would be if this was all left to pure chance and the pure free will of man? </p><p>What if the Sanhedrin had by it's free will choice never arrested Jesus and tried him by jewish law founding him guilty? What would god do then? </p><p></p><p>As I go back to my original point in what Mourdock said, whether we like the point or not, agree or disagree, from the bible he does have a point upon which he can stand. And thus from a bible perspective, was the rapist acting alone or was he acting per the hand of god and thus all outcomes would be according to god's will.</p><p></p><p>As a purely side note, the next time you hear someone proclaim they want to end the welfare state and you think of them as heartless and without compassion, read verse 15 above and ponder that thought. Besides, how can you not be sure that the person speaking is not in reality a messenger of god and acting according to god's own purpose? What might god have done to an Israelite who murdered Pharaoh while in the midst of the grand contest between Moses and Pharaoh thus denying god the chance to display his power for good? If Pharaoh was an "arm of the Lord" why is it no less a point of consideration that Hitler was an "arm of the Lord?" And if you think that question absurd, you should consider the book "The Trial of God" by Ellie Wiesel that was later made into a movie. </p><p></p><p>The entire film "God on Trail" is free on YouTube but this is "The Verdict" scene which makes the point. A esteemed Rabbi among them who had remained silent is now speaking and his words are deeply thought provoking.</p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wkmac, post: 1045214, member: 2189"] If god hardened Pharaoh's heart, why should god not also have a hand in Herod's action? You mean Jesus came to be among us for the greater purpose of man's salvation and yet it was pure chance that he was executed to fulfill that mission? Even Paul understood that god intertwined himself in the affairs of man in order to derive an outcome. How did Jesus seem to know what his purpose and outcome would be if this was all left to pure chance and the pure free will of man? What if the Sanhedrin had by it's free will choice never arrested Jesus and tried him by jewish law founding him guilty? What would god do then? As I go back to my original point in what Mourdock said, whether we like the point or not, agree or disagree, from the bible he does have a point upon which he can stand. And thus from a bible perspective, was the rapist acting alone or was he acting per the hand of god and thus all outcomes would be according to god's will. As a purely side note, the next time you hear someone proclaim they want to end the welfare state and you think of them as heartless and without compassion, read verse 15 above and ponder that thought. Besides, how can you not be sure that the person speaking is not in reality a messenger of god and acting according to god's own purpose? What might god have done to an Israelite who murdered Pharaoh while in the midst of the grand contest between Moses and Pharaoh thus denying god the chance to display his power for good? If Pharaoh was an "arm of the Lord" why is it no less a point of consideration that Hitler was an "arm of the Lord?" And if you think that question absurd, you should consider the book "The Trial of God" by Ellie Wiesel that was later made into a movie. The entire film "God on Trail" is free on YouTube but this is "The Verdict" scene which makes the point. A esteemed Rabbi among them who had remained silent is now speaking and his words are deeply thought provoking. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx7irFN2gdI[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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