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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 5745173" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>People had big families way back when because it was an agrarian society and that extended over into the 50's. You're absolutely right that when women became more educated and birth control became available families started shrinking. And eventually having children has become so expensive that they're limiting the number of children or are avoiding them altogether. Or, as many educated women have found out, if they put off marriage and kids while pursuing a career their options are often very limited when they get older.</p><p></p><p>I'm not following your logic. I've pointed out repeatedly that the average was 62 and that was caused by so many children and young adults dying from disease. What you were saying was that most adults died by 62 and thus weren't living long enough to be impoverished in their old age. That being eligible at 65 meant very little. Then you looked up stats and realized as I was saying that millions actually were living past 65 so you've been CYAing ever since.</p><p></p><p>Here's the thing pal. You don't want Social Security. And are willing to push any argument to get rid of it. Bottom line you don't care about the predicament millions find themselves in. You just want to hang on to the money. You deserve it more than than these lazy people do.</p><p></p><p>And for all you hourly UPS guys not wanting Social Security too because you think you'd do a lot better keeping that money. Do you think your taxes aren't factored in when negotiating your contract? Do you think if SS wasn't collected that UPS would give you as much money? You're kidding yourselves if you think you'd get that extra plus a generous contract also.</p><p></p><p>Not to mention a lot of people would squander it rather than putting it into savings. And someone grossing $500 a week, or less, would probably need it rather than investing it. But hey, they get what they deserve. Only management types or other "superior" people deserve to have anything.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 5745173, member: 24302"] People had big families way back when because it was an agrarian society and that extended over into the 50's. You're absolutely right that when women became more educated and birth control became available families started shrinking. And eventually having children has become so expensive that they're limiting the number of children or are avoiding them altogether. Or, as many educated women have found out, if they put off marriage and kids while pursuing a career their options are often very limited when they get older. I'm not following your logic. I've pointed out repeatedly that the average was 62 and that was caused by so many children and young adults dying from disease. What you were saying was that most adults died by 62 and thus weren't living long enough to be impoverished in their old age. That being eligible at 65 meant very little. Then you looked up stats and realized as I was saying that millions actually were living past 65 so you've been CYAing ever since. Here's the thing pal. You don't want Social Security. And are willing to push any argument to get rid of it. Bottom line you don't care about the predicament millions find themselves in. You just want to hang on to the money. You deserve it more than than these lazy people do. And for all you hourly UPS guys not wanting Social Security too because you think you'd do a lot better keeping that money. Do you think your taxes aren't factored in when negotiating your contract? Do you think if SS wasn't collected that UPS would give you as much money? You're kidding yourselves if you think you'd get that extra plus a generous contract also. Not to mention a lot of people would squander it rather than putting it into savings. And someone grossing $500 a week, or less, would probably need it rather than investing it. But hey, they get what they deserve. Only management types or other "superior" people deserve to have anything. [/QUOTE]
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