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<blockquote data-quote="Box Ox" data-source="post: 5172815" data-attributes="member: 48469">Looking at the Ukraine/Russia situation objectively is believing US power or lack thereof is derived from the age of its politicians rather than their actions?&quot;Anybody but Trump&quot; isn&#039;t gonna be enough in 2024. Biden won the electoral college vote pretty narrowly in 2020 and it won&#039;t go any better for Biden and the Democrats in 2024. I&#039;d never vote for Trump but I hope the Democrats will also be able to do better next time. [URL unfurl=&quot;true&quot;]https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/940689086/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency&#039;[/URL]&quot;As NPR&#039;s Domenico Montanaro <a href="https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/937248659/president-elect-biden-hits-80-million-votes-in-year-of-record-turnout" target="_blank">has put it</a>, &quot;just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Box Ox, post: 5172815, member: 48469"] Looking at the Ukraine/Russia situation objectively is believing US power or lack thereof is derived from the age of its politicians rather than their actions? "Anybody but Trump" isn't gonna be enough in 2024. Biden won the electoral college vote pretty narrowly in 2020 and it won't go any better for Biden and the Democrats in 2024. I'd never vote for Trump but I hope the Democrats will also be able to do better next time. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.npr.org/2020/12/02/940689086/narrow-wins-in-these-key-states-powered-biden-to-the-presidency'[/URL] "As NPR's Domenico Montanaro [URL='https://www.npr.org/2020/11/25/937248659/president-elect-biden-hits-80-million-votes-in-year-of-record-turnout']has put it[/URL], "just 44,000 votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin separated Biden and Trump from a tie in the Electoral College." [/QUOTE]

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