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<blockquote data-quote="gingerkat" data-source="post: 1216411" data-attributes="member: 43502">I know you were talking to someone else, but let me speak on this.&nbsp; I was really happy when the ACA plan came about because I lost two friends (seniors) to cancer because they had no insurance and found out too late. I often get a my feathers ruffled when people with no insurance go to the ER for routine care and then tax paying folks have to pick up the tab. I thought having affordable health care might eliminate some of that. I said in a past post that when you take from one to help another, that really isn&#039;t helping.&nbsp; That is just acknowledged theft.&nbsp; This program is hurting more people than it&#039;s helping.&nbsp; It hurts the young &amp; healthy, the one&#039;s that need speciality care, people that don&#039;t want insurance and the insurance industry.&nbsp; I know that last one seems unimportant, but its not. These huge insurance companies provide thousands of jobs. With these job losses we also will have longer wait times for customer service, wait longer for our claims check and even our health reps will have less time for us.I have been to seminars with major health insurance companies in the past two months and it&#039;s shocking to see what people will be paying.&nbsp; It&#039;s completely bass-ackwards and sad that this is our reality.&nbsp; I looked around the room and saw a room crammed with agents/producers and most of them looked very confused. It seems that no one, including our fearless leader knows what the hell is going on.&nbsp; The one thing all of these companies agreed on is hold on to your shorts, it&#039;s just the tip of the iceberg.Again ObamaCRAP is a fail all around.&nbsp; I&#039;m sure some people are happy, but at the expense of others.&nbsp; For those that don&#039;t want it, good luck in trying to &quot;ding&quot; someone with a penalty when they get paid under the table, change jobs often or have a fake ID/name. &nbsp;I think you asked for an example before? Here is from my agent friend about what his kid is going to pay.An HSA&nbsp; with a $5K annual out of pocket was &quot;inferior?&quot; That inferior plan was costing my son $79 a month. Now the &quot;better&quot; plan with a $6,350 out of pocket will cost over $250. And my son is only 26!RR, sorry this was long winded, but I think you really fail to see the big picture.&nbsp; This whole ACA was intended to help and damn, it was a good thought, but failed in execution.&nbsp; We don&#039;t need to revamp this, we need scrap it and start over.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="gingerkat, post: 1216411, member: 43502"] I know you were talking to someone else, but let me speak on this. I was really happy when the ACA plan came about because I lost two friends (seniors) to cancer because they had no insurance and found out too late. I often get a my feathers ruffled when people with no insurance go to the ER for routine care and then tax paying folks have to pick up the tab. I thought having affordable health care might eliminate some of that. I said in a past post that when you take from one to help another, that really isn't helping. That is just acknowledged theft. This program is hurting more people than it's helping. It hurts the young & healthy, the one's that need speciality care, people that don't want insurance and the insurance industry. I know that last one seems unimportant, but its not. These huge insurance companies provide thousands of jobs. With these job losses we also will have longer wait times for customer service, wait longer for our claims check and even our health reps will have less time for us. I have been to seminars with major health insurance companies in the past two months and it's shocking to see what people will be paying. It's completely bass-ackwards and sad that this is our reality. I looked around the room and saw a room crammed with agents/producers and most of them looked very confused. It seems that no one, including our fearless leader knows what the hell is going on. The one thing all of these companies agreed on is hold on to your shorts, it's just the tip of the iceberg. Again ObamaCRAP is a fail all around. I'm sure some people are happy, but at the expense of others. For those that don't want it, good luck in trying to "ding" someone with a penalty when they get paid under the table, change jobs often or have a fake ID/name. I think you asked for an example before? Here is from my agent friend about what his kid is going to pay.[INDENT][I][COLOR=#333333][FONT=lucida grande]An HSA with a $5K annual out of pocket was "inferior?" That inferior plan was costing my son $79 a month. Now the "better" plan with a $6,350 out of pocket will cost over $250. And my son is only 26![/FONT][/COLOR][/I][/INDENT] RR, sorry this was long winded, but I think you really fail to see the big picture. This whole ACA was intended to help and damn, it was a good thought, but failed in execution. We don't need to revamp this, we need scrap it and start over. [/QUOTE]

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