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<blockquote data-quote="av8torntn" data-source="post: 705796" data-attributes="member: 8259">Well first of all and I do not think you are suggesting this but the federal government cannot just pass any law they want because the federal government is supreme. The laws they pass must be pursuant to the constitution. If you do your research you will find that the courts have upheld tenth amendment challenges in the past and I hope they do the same here. The politicians have gotten better over the years at passing laws to skirt the tenth amendment by taking money from the citizens through their right of taxation and then give the money back to the states to fund programs that meet federal guidelines. Think of Louisiana and the highway fund with regards to their drinking age. The way they over reach the authority we as citizens gave them&nbsp; with taxation is a valid reason to demand the repeal of the 16th amendment. The over reaching in regards to the commerce clause is an entirely different beast not the good and commerce clause as some would suggest. In the end the power still rests with the people but it is waaay past time that the government act within the bounds of the constitution and the powers that we gave them as anything else makes them no more than a king and his court of jesters. &nbsp;I would say about the other part that there can be a difference between the two parties and yes I get it that you disagree. The proof is in the pudding. It was no coincidence that the only time in recent history that the federal government shrank just happened to be when the republicans took over congress in the early 90&#039;s. I&#039;m fairly young and may be idealistic but I&#039;m hoping for a perfect storm. The major problem is that it would take at least two election cycles to make changes large enough in our government and the attention span of the electorate is fairly short.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="av8torntn, post: 705796, member: 8259"] Well first of all and I do not think you are suggesting this but the federal government cannot just pass any law they want because the federal government is supreme. The laws they pass must be pursuant to the constitution. If you do your research you will find that the courts have upheld tenth amendment challenges in the past and I hope they do the same here. The politicians have gotten better over the years at passing laws to skirt the tenth amendment by taking money from the citizens through their right of taxation and then give the money back to the states to fund programs that meet federal guidelines. Think of Louisiana and the highway fund with regards to their drinking age. The way they over reach the authority we as citizens gave them with taxation is a valid reason to demand the repeal of the 16th amendment. The over reaching in regards to the commerce clause is an entirely different beast not the good and commerce clause as some would suggest. In the end the power still rests with the people but it is waaay past time that the government act within the bounds of the constitution and the powers that we gave them as anything else makes them no more than a king and his court of jesters. I would say about the other part that there can be a difference between the two parties and yes I get it that you disagree. The proof is in the pudding. It was no coincidence that the only time in recent history that the federal government shrank just happened to be when the republicans took over congress in the early 90's. I'm fairly young and may be idealistic but I'm hoping for a perfect storm. The major problem is that it would take at least two election cycles to make changes large enough in our government and the attention span of the electorate is fairly short. [/QUOTE]

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