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<blockquote data-quote="klein" data-source="post: 804989" data-attributes="member: 23950">You should start getting a provider by yourself then !&nbsp; No tax deduction, and no free healthcare from the employer.Wouldn&#039;t that make US companies more competitive, and keep jobs in the US, so every American can benefit with lower unemployment ?&nbsp;You talk about middle man - we don&#039;t have a middle man !Government takes taxes, gives to Healthcare provider. Simple as that.&nbsp;US : Government gives you a tax free deduction on your paycheck for healthcare bennies your employer pays - then that goes to MIDDLEMAN Insurance company.,(which takes a profit) - and they pay healthcare providers.&nbsp;Government , even provides EMS services, hospital bulidings, the non insured, and medicare, medicaid (which all of you pay for).While Insurance companies and big pharma are profiting.(almost forgot - you have 2 middle men - forgot pharma)...&nbsp;Pharma gets very little here - they aren&#039;t even allowed to advertise on TV at all. (to keep costs down).They also must negotiate prices with the government , so they don&#039;t overcharge.(hence, why we get perscriptions drugs for half the price then Americans do).&nbsp;Hospital Staff here are on salary (it doesn&#039;t go by how many surgerys a physician does)Just like you don&#039;t get paid by how many packages per day you pick up or deliver... or how heavy and awkward they were.Or if you had bad road conditions, you would get paid more...&nbsp;A regular Dr&#039;s office visit, is set at $35 or $40 somewhere around that sum. (gov picks up that tab).&nbsp;If you think you have the right system in place, and the US citizens are getting their monies worth, paying twice as much then any other country, then good for you.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="klein, post: 804989, member: 23950"] You should start getting a provider by yourself then ! No tax deduction, and no free healthcare from the employer. Wouldn't that make US companies more competitive, and keep jobs in the US, so every American can benefit with lower unemployment ? You talk about middle man - we don't have a middle man ! Government takes taxes, gives to Healthcare provider. Simple as that. US : Government gives you a tax free deduction on your paycheck for healthcare bennies your employer pays - then that goes to MIDDLEMAN Insurance company., (which takes a profit) - and they pay healthcare providers. Government , even provides EMS services, hospital bulidings, the non insured, and medicare, medicaid (which all of you pay for). While Insurance companies and big pharma are profiting. (almost forgot - you have 2 middle men - forgot pharma)... Pharma gets very little here - they aren't even allowed to advertise on TV at all. (to keep costs down). They also must negotiate prices with the government , so they don't overcharge. (hence, why we get perscriptions drugs for half the price then Americans do). Hospital Staff here are on salary (it doesn't go by how many surgerys a physician does) Just like you don't get paid by how many packages per day you pick up or deliver... or how heavy and awkward they were. Or if you had bad road conditions, you would get paid more... A regular Dr's office visit, is set at $35 or $40 somewhere around that sum. (gov picks up that tab). If you think you have the right system in place, and the US citizens are getting their monies worth, paying twice as much then any other country, then good for you. [/QUOTE]

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