President Trump

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Look, Im just looking at reality. To have an impact on jobs or trade or immigration, a president has to pass legislation to impact those things. Trump has done nothing of the sort.

President Obama objectively passed legislation that impacted jobs. Trump has not. So you can't say oh well Trump and Obama should get the same credit for job creation when Obama passed legislation that had a tangible impact on job creation and Trump has not.
"Repealing" Obama Executive Orders has done a lot to generate jobs.
Confidence in the President to not pass anti-business legislation and reduce taxes has helped considerably.

And BTW, the Prez does not pass legislation.
That is the responsibility invested in the Congress as well as the authority.
 

rod

Retired 23 years
Huh? What does that mean? You have lived American history? So that means you know the comparative quality and historical accuracy of history books now versus those in the past? I don't get your point.


It means I've lived in a time when trains were pulled by steam locomotives, I've hid under a school desk to prepare for a nuclear blast, I've watched as everything from dogs to people were shot into space and witnessed men walking on the moon. I've seen cars go from works of art to the crap that is on the road today where you can't tell one from the other. I've lived through everything from the Korean Conflict to what ever it is we are fighting for today and was drafted during the Vietnam war. I've seen society go from only a few living on welfare to what its become today where at least 11 states now list "welfare" as the main source of their residents income. I've seen tons of good high paying jobs go overseas. I've lived through a period where you respected your parents, teachers and law enforcement and paid the penalty if you didn't. I haven't looked at a History book since my kids were in school in the late 80's. Even back then WWII had been reduced to a paltry 3 pages in their history books. As far as I know all you have to do to graduate now is to attend school because little Johney isn't allowed to fail and be held back a grade.
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
"Repealing" Obama Executive Orders has done a lot to generate jobs.
Confidence in the President to not pass anti-business legislation and reduce taxes has helped considerably.

And BTW, the Prez does not pass legislation.
That is the responsibility invested in the Congress as well as the authority.

Name the canceled executive order that has lead to job creation or job growth. This is a nothing talking point.

GWBush was pro low taxes and actually passed tax cuts and anti-regulations and how'd that work out for job creation during his presidency.

You aren't naming anything that Trump has done that leads to actual job growth because job growth hasn't increased. He has had zero impact on jobs.

Obviously congress passes legislation, but clearly if a President doesn't get any of his domestic policies through Congress he has done nothing on jobs.
 

DriveInDriѵeOut

Inordinately Right
It means I've lived in a time when trains were pulled by steam locomotives, I've hid under a school desk to prepare for a nuclear blast, I've watched as everything from dogs to people were shot into space and witnessed men walking on the moon. I've seen cars go from works of art to the crap that is on the road today where you can't tell one from the other. I've lived through everything from the Korean Conflict to what ever it is we are fighting for today and was drafted during the Vietnam war. I've seen society go from only a few living on welfare to what its become today where at least 11 states now list "welfare" as the main source of their residents income. I've seen tons of good high paying jobs go overseas. I've lived through a period where you respected your parents, teachers and law enforcement and paid the penalty if you didn't. I haven't looked at a History book since my kids were in school in the late 80's. Even back then WWII had been reduced to a paltry 3 pages in their history books. As far as I know all you have to do to graduate now is to attend school because little Johney isn't allowed to fail and be held back a grade.
Tldr
 

refineryworker05

Well-Known Member
It means I've lived in a time when trains were pulled by steam locomotives, I've hid under a school desk to prepare for a nuclear blast, I've watched as everything from dogs to people were shot into space and witnessed men walking on the moon. I've seen cars go from works of art to the crap that is on the road today where you can't tell one from the other. I've lived through everything from the Korean Conflict to what ever it is we are fighting for today and was drafted during the Vietnam war. I've seen society go from only a few living on welfare to what its become today where at least 11 states now list "welfare" as the main source of their residents income. I've seen tons of good high paying jobs go overseas. I've lived through a period where you respected your parents, teachers and law enforcement and paid the penalty if you didn't. I haven't looked at a History book since my kids were in school in the late 80's. Even back then WWII had been reduced to a paltry 3 pages in their history books. As far as I know all you have to do to graduate now is to attend school because little Johney isn't allowed to fail and be held back a grade.


What are you talking about? Seriously? You admit you haven't even looked at a history book since the 1980's.

I mean you admit you are ignorant of the topic you are discussing. All I asked is to ask yourself why you believe something that you admit you know nothing about?

And you believe students no longer fail in school or get held back?
 

rod

Retired 23 years
What are you talking about? Seriously? You admit you haven't even looked at a history book since the 1980's.

I mean you admit you are ignorant of the topic you are discussing. All I asked is to ask yourself why you believe something that you admit you know nothing about?

And you believe students no longer fail in school or get held back?


I haven't heard of a kid being held back in years. You seem to be a prime example
 

Catatonic

Nine Lives
Name the canceled executive order that has lead to job creation or job growth. This is a nothing talking point.

GWBush was pro low taxes and actually passed tax cuts and anti-regulations and how'd that work out for job creation during his presidency.

You aren't naming anything that Trump has done that leads to actual job growth because job growth hasn't increased. He has had zero impact on jobs.

Obviously congress passes legislation, but clearly if a President doesn't get any of his domestic policies through Congress he has done nothing on jobs.
I don't have to play your games ... you are just bitter and ignore facts as irrelevant.
 
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