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<blockquote data-quote="diesel96" data-source="post: 651272" data-attributes="member: 9859"><p>Most have their opinion, I have mine. I’ll take Obama over what came before any day of the week. An across-the-board disaster that Obama has to waste valuable capital undoing and making up for. The fundamental character & way of life of the US was abruptly changed, but at the same time it can be influenced by its leadership... some agree with the former admin, most with the current. If you cling to anger over Obama as some sort of ideological life raft, make your claim w/o envoking birth certs, college records, teleprompters, bowing or any other ridiculus conspiracy theory. The fact is, the world came to loathe and reject Bush because he seemed to so completely turn his back on American values in the name of corporate giveaways and murderous neocon fantasy... Obama represents a return in unlike Bush fashion - though whether he can actually deliver is a question. Escalation in Afgh is a similarity problem for me with the Bush Adm, however, in un-Bush-like manner, a controversial time table was set, the Generals seemed pleased at the new strategy, and it's not like he broke a campaign promise. He did say he was going to ease out of Iraq and turn up the heat in Afgh. This unending and knee-jerk hostility towards Obama paints the opposition's party, of a dead and discredited ideology, as well as another of those Tea-Parties of negativity the right seems to brew so well with mis-information....Wkmac, seems to bring the strongest arguement in molding Bush and Obama, as one of the same, in his own (Ron Jeremy--Conrad Dobler) unique way, and IMO, a l'il over the top. That's the only thing Dick Cheney and myself would agree on, "That Obama fellow is no George Bush!"....</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="diesel96, post: 651272, member: 9859"] Most have their opinion, I have mine. I’ll take Obama over what came before any day of the week. An across-the-board disaster that Obama has to waste valuable capital undoing and making up for. The fundamental character & way of life of the US was abruptly changed, but at the same time it can be influenced by its leadership... some agree with the former admin, most with the current. If you cling to anger over Obama as some sort of ideological life raft, make your claim w/o envoking birth certs, college records, teleprompters, bowing or any other ridiculus conspiracy theory. The fact is, the world came to loathe and reject Bush because he seemed to so completely turn his back on American values in the name of corporate giveaways and murderous neocon fantasy... Obama represents a return in unlike Bush fashion - though whether he can actually deliver is a question. Escalation in Afgh is a similarity problem for me with the Bush Adm, however, in un-Bush-like manner, a controversial time table was set, the Generals seemed pleased at the new strategy, and it's not like he broke a campaign promise. He did say he was going to ease out of Iraq and turn up the heat in Afgh. This unending and knee-jerk hostility towards Obama paints the opposition's party, of a dead and discredited ideology, as well as another of those Tea-Parties of negativity the right seems to brew so well with mis-information....Wkmac, seems to bring the strongest arguement in molding Bush and Obama, as one of the same, in his own (Ron Jeremy--Conrad Dobler) unique way, and IMO, a l'il over the top. That's the only thing Dick Cheney and myself would agree on, "That Obama fellow is no George Bush!".... [/QUOTE]
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