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<blockquote data-quote="curiousbrain" data-source="post: 963620" data-attributes="member: 31608"><p>The previous two posts are why I initially wanted to be a part-time supervisor; at the building where I am employed, at the time when I was hired, my part-time soup helped us all out. Maybe he did it to make numbers, maybe he did it because he was a nice guy who hated to see us smashed with cardboard. But, because I so respected and admired the folks I was privileged to work next to, I immediately expressed interest because I wanted to be "that guy" who helped them in whatever way I could.</p><p></p><p>Now, there is certainly some amount of naivety in that; but, there is still some truth to it, as well. The fact is that the preload is so slammed you can't find your boxes as they come down the belt, never mind have time to load them. Is that the fault of the "Gods"? Quite possibly; unfortunately, the practical reality is that "they" will still not hire anyone to help out. Even if management misses bonuses and all that, they will rotate them through until someone shows up who can either grind out the numbers through extreme attrition, or through some vestige of respect and comradery combined with attrition.</p><p></p><p>I've even been privy to certain conversations where certain people <strong>want</strong> the union to come in and enforce the actual letter of the contract, because then they would be free from the insane demands of spreadsheet logistics; the obvious retort might be that they should "be the bigger man" and stand up for what is right, but they have families, kids, dreams, and they don't have the luxury of using morals to pay for their car, house, or whatever. That is not to absolve them of all blame, because there is certainly enough to go around for everyone, but in the areas (such as mine) where the union does not enforce any rules, is essentially laughed at by its own members, and the "gods" reign supreme, I and many like me will keep helping whenever it is necessary to promote safety in the only way we can - loading boxes when egress is so blocked as to be a complete hazard.</p><p></p><p>The day the union (or anyone, for that matter) rolls in, and puts a stop to the madness, is the day I will quit doing bargaining unit work. I also realize that drivers are sent out with insane amounts of work, and some are able to simply stonewall "them" until their routes are "fixed"; or they just get paid insane OT. The preload (in my area) is not like that; the second the drivers punch in, the loaders are cut and any work left is up to the driver to deal with; there is no OT to speak of. The part-timers could complain about it to the union, but most of them know, by historical precedent, that it will go nowhere anyway. The small amount of representation that exists in my area is strictly reserved for the full-time employees.</p><p></p><p>It's not important if I think this is a good state of affairs or not, and that would miss the point; this is just the practical, operational reality that I work in every day; wish in one hand, crap in the other ... I think the rest is obvious.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="curiousbrain, post: 963620, member: 31608"] The previous two posts are why I initially wanted to be a part-time supervisor; at the building where I am employed, at the time when I was hired, my part-time soup helped us all out. Maybe he did it to make numbers, maybe he did it because he was a nice guy who hated to see us smashed with cardboard. But, because I so respected and admired the folks I was privileged to work next to, I immediately expressed interest because I wanted to be "that guy" who helped them in whatever way I could. Now, there is certainly some amount of naivety in that; but, there is still some truth to it, as well. The fact is that the preload is so slammed you can't find your boxes as they come down the belt, never mind have time to load them. Is that the fault of the "Gods"? Quite possibly; unfortunately, the practical reality is that "they" will still not hire anyone to help out. Even if management misses bonuses and all that, they will rotate them through until someone shows up who can either grind out the numbers through extreme attrition, or through some vestige of respect and comradery combined with attrition. I've even been privy to certain conversations where certain people [B]want[/B] the union to come in and enforce the actual letter of the contract, because then they would be free from the insane demands of spreadsheet logistics; the obvious retort might be that they should "be the bigger man" and stand up for what is right, but they have families, kids, dreams, and they don't have the luxury of using morals to pay for their car, house, or whatever. That is not to absolve them of all blame, because there is certainly enough to go around for everyone, but in the areas (such as mine) where the union does not enforce any rules, is essentially laughed at by its own members, and the "gods" reign supreme, I and many like me will keep helping whenever it is necessary to promote safety in the only way we can - loading boxes when egress is so blocked as to be a complete hazard. The day the union (or anyone, for that matter) rolls in, and puts a stop to the madness, is the day I will quit doing bargaining unit work. I also realize that drivers are sent out with insane amounts of work, and some are able to simply stonewall "them" until their routes are "fixed"; or they just get paid insane OT. The preload (in my area) is not like that; the second the drivers punch in, the loaders are cut and any work left is up to the driver to deal with; there is no OT to speak of. The part-timers could complain about it to the union, but most of them know, by historical precedent, that it will go nowhere anyway. The small amount of representation that exists in my area is strictly reserved for the full-time employees. It's not important if I think this is a good state of affairs or not, and that would miss the point; this is just the practical, operational reality that I work in every day; wish in one hand, crap in the other ... I think the rest is obvious. [/QUOTE]
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