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Message: <blockquote data-quote="brownIEman" data-source="post: 461283" data-attributes="member: 14596">On over/under and methods, I have no idea, I was not there.Could he do it again tomorrow?  Of course not.  Are you going to claim 10 years after you retire that you could still go out any given day cold and deliver a route as well as your best day?  Look, my point was that many people in management, even IE, have been there and done that.  Many folks on this board want to try to claim that all management should just STFU about driver production because all magmnt do not understand the drivers job.  For a company that promotes from within as much as UPS does, this is simply not true.</blockquote>