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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 461441" data-attributes="member: 484">Let me add some additional thoughts. There are people that for what ever reason see a way to further their personal goals in life and use UPS or the Teamsters as a springboard. While I do not know this guy at all, the one thing he does represent in his testimony and actions is that he thought of himself as the ultimate organizer, another Hoffa Sr or another Ron Carey.  He was and is neither. As an example, the petition to bring back the other fired driver. 1.  Had no knowledge of the case.  Had no information as to what info UPS had to fire the driver over.2.  He was interested in proclaiming himself a power broker in front of the drivers.  All hype, no substance.  Most burn out and are known for what they are, some end up on the trash heap.3.  He went to management without talking to the BA as to the status of the fired driver.  Had he done that, he would have found out that the termination was reduced to a suspension the same day, the discussions for that were underway within minutes of the termination.4.  Being the brash loudmouthed egotist he is, he presented the petition to the center manager with instructions to forward it to the DM All this, in his mind doing the unions business.  But even the union admitted it to be off base for its steward to behave in this fashion. BTW, the company proved, without again the union having a rebuttal against, that this was above and beyond the scope of the stewards job, but in any case, had no bearing on the actions that had occurred before, during or after the petition. Again, as a steward representing this guy, I would have cautioned him about the path he was taking.  You do not ever taunt UPS about them not being able to do nothing about production, give them statements that yes, 13.71 stops an hour are fair on my run, then never run even close to that on purpose just to prove your point.  As a steward, I will tell you you will lose.  Big time. Secondly, just to prove how off the wall this guy is, he does not prepare for the hearings.  In all the testimony he gave, there is very little that does not involve his personal position on the contract.  Basically that he was THE authority on the contract, and everyone else needed to see it his way or they were wrong.  Not a good strategy on his part. There were several items of information that I would have considered essential to his basic defense, none of which he had, or allowed the company to present testimony without rebuttal.   With these, we might have gotten his job back, but in my opinion, only to lose it again later on.  Drivers like this, its only a matter of time before the final shoe falls. Had a driver like that here.  Got his job back quite a few times, and each time, for a while, he would do great.  Things like stealing time, falsifying mileage, pre recording some stops while delivering, then bringing them back up at lunch to complete one at a time, then take his "real lunch" later on that day, walking off the job etc.  And each time we persuaded local and district management to bring him back.  Until the last time.  HE begged to take it to the panel and to arbitration.  But with his record, they would have just laughed.  16 terminations in 5 years might be something you brag about in the mens room, but in front of an arbitrator.... Anyway, I am willing to discuss my view on this with fact.  Anyone that has opposing views, have at it. d</blockquote>

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