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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 462204" data-attributes="member: 484">Red&nbsp;Yup, seen it several times.&nbsp; Gotta let the dummies do it to themselves.&nbsp; Even when we know better.&nbsp;Kinda like a doc.&nbsp; We can only tell them what the problem is and how to fix it.&nbsp; Allowing us to use our knowledge to fix it is up to them.&nbsp; They refuse, we stand by and watch them die.&nbsp; Sometimes, if it is not too late, we try to help if they see the error.&nbsp;As far as getting one to lie, me either.&nbsp; But I have had to tell a bunch to shut up and not say another word without my permission.&nbsp; Its funny how when some people talk, they can open up several other cans of worms they really dont want opened.&nbsp;I suspect that is why the lawyer for the grievant recommended not to air the contents of the tape he made.&nbsp; Remember, get it admitted, and it is all there.&nbsp; And UPS can use it against you as well.&nbsp; So there must have been some damning content.&nbsp;Anyway, sorry if this guy was a friend.&nbsp; Maybe he was used.&nbsp; Best I can tell, he was warned by some that saw what was going to happen.&nbsp; Others like 804 just stood by and let him self destruct.&nbsp;Better to win a bunch of smaller fights and live to fight again, than to try to win the war all in one fight and lose.&nbsp; Especially when you dont have any ammo.&nbsp;d</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 462204, member: 484"] Red Yup, seen it several times. Gotta let the dummies do it to themselves. Even when we know better. Kinda like a doc. We can only tell them what the problem is and how to fix it. Allowing us to use our knowledge to fix it is up to them. They refuse, we stand by and watch them die. Sometimes, if it is not too late, we try to help if they see the error. As far as getting one to lie, me either. But I have had to tell a bunch to shut up and not say another word without my permission. Its funny how when some people talk, they can open up several other cans of worms they really dont want opened. I suspect that is why the lawyer for the grievant recommended not to air the contents of the tape he made. Remember, get it admitted, and it is all there. And UPS can use it against you as well. So there must have been some damning content. Anyway, sorry if this guy was a friend. Maybe he was used. Best I can tell, he was warned by some that saw what was going to happen. Others like 804 just stood by and let him self destruct. Better to win a bunch of smaller fights and live to fight again, than to try to win the war all in one fight and lose. Especially when you dont have any ammo. d [/QUOTE]

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