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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 462385" data-attributes="member: 484">Heffe&nbsp;At the hearings, you as the grievant are asked to testify. It is your testimony against the company. The union can help, the BA and or lawyer can object to questions or conversations that are not relevant, and so on, much like a trial in a court room.&nbsp;The difference here is this guy did not prepare. He did so either out of a sense of over confidence in is position, or he made decisions that he did not think through. &nbsp;He also seems to believe that any means justify the end. I dont.&nbsp;As for heated exchanges with management, Ive had them as well. I have found that the first person that starts either yelling or cussing did so because they were losing the argument. Much like civil discussions here that turn into flames. The subject is no longer the issue, it is the personalities of the people involved.&nbsp;Using this, every time a sup started going off on me, I knew I had him where I wanted him, out of control. After a few seconds, I declared the meeting over and would leave. Funny thing that, a shop steward telling management the meeting is over. That means they are not in control anymore, and they hate that.&nbsp;Grown men that have a lick of intelligence should not have to rely on this type of behavior when negotiating.&nbsp;Just my humble experiences.&nbsp;Suit, I think that was a typo on your part.&nbsp; From what I know of you, I would not think you think you are superior to any of us here?&nbsp;&nbsp;d</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 462385, member: 484"] Heffe At the hearings, you as the grievant are asked to testify. It is your testimony against the company. The union can help, the BA and or lawyer can object to questions or conversations that are not relevant, and so on, much like a trial in a court room. The difference here is this guy did not prepare. He did so either out of a sense of over confidence in is position, or he made decisions that he did not think through. He also seems to believe that any means justify the end. I dont. As for heated exchanges with management, Ive had them as well. I have found that the first person that starts either yelling or cussing did so because they were losing the argument. Much like civil discussions here that turn into flames. The subject is no longer the issue, it is the personalities of the people involved. Using this, every time a sup started going off on me, I knew I had him where I wanted him, out of control. After a few seconds, I declared the meeting over and would leave. Funny thing that, a shop steward telling management the meeting is over. That means they are not in control anymore, and they hate that. Grown men that have a lick of intelligence should not have to rely on this type of behavior when negotiating. Just my humble experiences. Suit, I think that was a typo on your part. From what I know of you, I would not think you think you are superior to any of us here? d [/QUOTE]

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