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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 465110" data-attributes="member: 484">Red&nbsp;Yes it was expedited. But when the driver has shown that he is resisting all manner of discipline and refuses ( note, I did say refused) to alter what he was doing, then as the arbitrator said, the decision was made that to continue would be a waste of time.&nbsp;While the progressive discipline was very quick, it was not without president, as was demonstrated by lack of presented information to the contrary. Almost a year is not too short for the company to allow behavior changes. Especially when they even come back and lower the standards for the driver.&nbsp;He invited them in for two reasons. One, he was a realist. He knew that first and foremost, they would be organizing them by force at some future date. So as the saying goes, you get more when you use sugar instead of vinegar. Why resist what will happen anyway. Kinda like the draft. If you know you are going to be drafted anyway, why not volunteer and get to choose what branch you serve in?&nbsp;Also at the time, he was looking to expand into parts of the USA that were controlled already by unions. You want in, deal with the union. Still that way now. You want to work in this area, you gotta pay off the unions. The work can still be done by non union labor, but only if the union gets a &quot;blackmail kick back&quot; .......Oh I mean service charge.&nbsp;So inviting the teamsters in would allow UPS to grow and expand faster than any other way.&nbsp; Good business move.&nbsp;Then comes labor management issues. Already early on UPS were promoting those managers that showed control and lack of people skills. He had to have a process in place to counter the monster he created.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 465110, member: 484"] Red Yes it was expedited. But when the driver has shown that he is resisting all manner of discipline and refuses ( note, I did say refused) to alter what he was doing, then as the arbitrator said, the decision was made that to continue would be a waste of time. While the progressive discipline was very quick, it was not without president, as was demonstrated by lack of presented information to the contrary. Almost a year is not too short for the company to allow behavior changes. Especially when they even come back and lower the standards for the driver. [COLOR=#ff0000][/COLOR] [COLOR=black]He invited them in for two reasons. One, he was a realist. He knew that first and foremost, they would be organizing them by force at some future date. So as the saying goes, you get more when you use sugar instead of vinegar. Why resist what will happen anyway. Kinda like the draft. If you know you are going to be drafted anyway, why not volunteer and get to choose what branch you serve in?[/COLOR] Also at the time, he was looking to expand into parts of the USA that were controlled already by unions. You want in, deal with the union. Still that way now. You want to work in this area, you gotta pay off the unions. The work can still be done by non union labor, but only if the union gets a "blackmail kick back" .......Oh I mean service charge. So inviting the teamsters in would allow UPS to grow and expand faster than any other way. Good business move. Then comes labor management issues. Already early on UPS were promoting those managers that showed control and lack of people skills. He had to have a process in place to counter the monster he created. [/QUOTE]

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