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<blockquote data-quote="dannyboy" data-source="post: 465548" data-attributes="member: 484">Red&nbsp;Why should the company care about the contract?&nbsp; Many of the drivers dont, unless its their family jewels squeezed by UPS.&nbsp; They are out there an hour before start time, work most of their lunch, all of their breaks, and punch off before their car quits rolling back at the center.&nbsp; &nbsp;Its those drivers that I ended up having to represent the most often.&nbsp;Things like taking personal time without noting it in the diad ( not like some of your guys who go by the pub for an hour or two), and a lot of other issues.&nbsp;As far as the firing of employees for nonsense, that is where you come in.&nbsp; A good steward can help with good advice.&nbsp;I have been gone about two years, and while things have changed, I do keep up with the latest flavor of koolaid.&nbsp; Usually try to have lunch with the stewards once a week, and the BA once a month.&nbsp; So I do keep a bit more up to date than you might expect.&nbsp;Bottom line on this case.&nbsp; UPS bent over backwards to get this nut to change his work habits.&nbsp; HE refused to take instruction.&nbsp; HE refused to give UPS a fair days work for the pay.&nbsp; Its not that he couldnt, he didnt.&nbsp;And it was not just here and there.&nbsp; It was almost every day.&nbsp;IF you go out and are running 12&#039;s by yourself, but yet when anyone rides with you, you consistently run 16&#039;, there is something wrong.&nbsp; Unless you can offer something up besides the ole mantra of &quot;the union does not recognize production therefore you cant do a damn thing about my piss poor production.&quot;&nbsp;In this case the total lack of any defense of any kind with the exception of repeating the above ended his career.&nbsp; I cant believe anyone else would be that stupid.&nbsp; &nbsp;And that has been my point.&nbsp;The majority of the drivers that are worried about this affecting their jobs give it their best.&nbsp; When instructed to do something, they do it to the best of their ability.&nbsp; In these cases, UPS does not stand a chance of firing the driver on production alone.&nbsp;This guy wanted a pissing contest on his terms.&nbsp; UPS gave it to him, and he lost.&nbsp; End of story.&nbsp;d</blockquote>

[QUOTE="dannyboy, post: 465548, member: 484"] Red Why should the company care about the contract? Many of the drivers dont, unless its their family jewels squeezed by UPS. They are out there an hour before start time, work most of their lunch, all of their breaks, and punch off before their car quits rolling back at the center. Its those drivers that I ended up having to represent the most often. Things like taking personal time without noting it in the diad ( not like some of your guys who go by the pub for an hour or two), and a lot of other issues. As far as the firing of employees for nonsense, that is where you come in. A good steward can help with good advice. I have been gone about two years, and while things have changed, I do keep up with the latest flavor of koolaid. Usually try to have lunch with the stewards once a week, and the BA once a month. So I do keep a bit more up to date than you might expect. Bottom line on this case. UPS bent over backwards to get this nut to change his work habits. HE refused to take instruction. HE refused to give UPS a fair days work for the pay. Its not that he couldnt, he didnt. And it was not just here and there. It was almost every day. IF you go out and are running 12's by yourself, but yet when anyone rides with you, you consistently run 16', there is something wrong. Unless you can offer something up besides the ole mantra of "the union does not recognize production therefore you cant do a damn thing about my piss poor production." In this case the total lack of any defense of any kind with the exception of repeating the above ended his career. I cant believe anyone else would be that stupid. And that has been my point. The majority of the drivers that are worried about this affecting their jobs give it their best. When instructed to do something, they do it to the best of their ability. In these cases, UPS does not stand a chance of firing the driver on production alone. This guy wanted a pissing contest on his terms. UPS gave it to him, and he lost. End of story. d [/QUOTE]

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