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PROPOSAL: ARTICLE 37-read and discuss
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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 259120" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>You see this is very good, we are discussing.</p><p> </p><p>Where do you read that you can request as many times as you wish? Point this out.</p><p> </p><p>Granted ? Yes. as to what? Requests. You are to be granted two bites at the apple, not as many as you wish.</p><p> </p><p>One common mistake people make when reading our contract is adding or replacing verbage that does not exist.</p><p> </p><p>Second, interpretation vs defined language. Many of you have never put on a case in front of an arbitor in your lives and if you did you would learn the value of defined language.</p><p> </p><p>While it may have been the "practice" of your respective centers to allow multiple requests, this however is not the LANGUAGE.</p><p> </p><p>You are only ALLOWED TWO REQUESTS. Period. There is also no defined guarantee that you get the request granted either. Indeed, the formula states that 10% of the center can be allowed to take an 8.0 hour day, but it does not define who gets it.</p><p> </p><p>As to your pointing out that I am incorrect. You stand corrected yourself.</p><p> </p><p>To make your point valid, please demonstrate the verbage contained in the article that permits an endless or (20) requests per month?</p><p> </p><p>20 would be the sum total of one request for every day in a 4 week month.</p><p> </p><p>Dont OVERREAD the article, use the language as it is written and try not to supplement its intention with your interpretation.</p><p> </p><p>Words are key.</p><p> </p><p>Great debate.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 259120, member: 12148"] You see this is very good, we are discussing. Where do you read that you can request as many times as you wish? Point this out. Granted ? Yes. as to what? Requests. You are to be granted two bites at the apple, not as many as you wish. One common mistake people make when reading our contract is adding or replacing verbage that does not exist. Second, interpretation vs defined language. Many of you have never put on a case in front of an arbitor in your lives and if you did you would learn the value of defined language. While it may have been the "practice" of your respective centers to allow multiple requests, this however is not the LANGUAGE. You are only ALLOWED TWO REQUESTS. Period. There is also no defined guarantee that you get the request granted either. Indeed, the formula states that 10% of the center can be allowed to take an 8.0 hour day, but it does not define who gets it. As to your pointing out that I am incorrect. You stand corrected yourself. To make your point valid, please demonstrate the verbage contained in the article that permits an endless or (20) requests per month? 20 would be the sum total of one request for every day in a 4 week month. Dont OVERREAD the article, use the language as it is written and try not to supplement its intention with your interpretation. Words are key. Great debate. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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