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<blockquote data-quote="BrownShark" data-source="post: 259863" data-attributes="member: 12148"><p>Brothers and Sisters, </p><p> </p><p>We had our membership meeting on Sunday October 28th.</p><p> </p><p>As expected, only about 75 UPS members showed up to hear and discuss the contract.</p><p> </p><p>Our local officers began the meeting by making a TON of excuses about labor in America, they blamed Pres Bush for the Union troubles in America.</p><p> </p><p>After this, they made a stunning statement to us. They said that this offer was "probably" the best offer that we would get from UPS and if we rejected it, the company would walk from the table and return in July and we would be on strike.</p><p> </p><p>The crowd did not react as they might have wished. These type of scare tactics dont work here in Los Angeles.</p><p> </p><p>We began going thru the contract, it was clear they were not here to explain to us how we got this new language, and they finally went ahead a made this clear: "we are not here to argue the language, we are just here to show you what we have and if you want to vote no then vote no"</p><p> </p><p>When we covered the article 37 language, EVERYONE complained about the 9.5 opt in / opt out section.</p><p> </p><p>The union confirmed my positions on what could happen with dispatching and they could not explain why in the opt out section it was necessary to make a driver waive all rights.</p><p> </p><p>In addition, with respect to our debate on 8.0 hours in this thread, the union confirms and affirms that ONLY TWO REQUESTS can be made each month and a maximum of 4 hours penalty pay a month can be recieved.</p><p> </p><p>They were very clear on this. If not, a driver could in effect, put in a grievance for a total of 32 hours a month if he put one in everyday all month and he was denied each time.</p><p> </p><p>Keep in mind the size of our centers vary from 10 to 125 and the 8.0 requests are going to be different in each.</p><p> </p><p>To make it all short, all the language was not defended and they kept repeating the same thing "if you dont like it, vote no, but we might end up on strike".</p><p> </p><p>The real kicker after the whole split wage thing, was that the COMPANY was insisting that after this vote, the contract would then GO INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1 2008 but economic issues would NOT go into effect until July 1 2008.</p><p> </p><p>Brothers and Sisters, given that I have read the whole contract and each package and Sort riders as well as the Western Conference and it is clear that we were sold out and sold short.</p><p> </p><p>I hate to say that, but it appears this way. Too many concessions in all areas. Here in my local, we had exclusive language that protected our members. </p><p> </p><p>It was and has been an addendum in the package rider that provided expedited arbitration for issues in our local.. We never participated in the panel system and we had the benefit of an arbitor making a binding decision within 30 days.</p><p> </p><p>Now, our local officers gave this back and they claimed the company was ready to walk over this issue. The result is to doom our members with a panel system that can take 8 to 12 months to settle a grievance.</p><p> </p><p>THANK YOU EXECUTIVE BOARD.</p><p> </p><p>Brothers and Sisters, I hope your meetings went better than ours.</p><p> </p><p>Peace.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BrownShark, post: 259863, member: 12148"] Brothers and Sisters, We had our membership meeting on Sunday October 28th. As expected, only about 75 UPS members showed up to hear and discuss the contract. Our local officers began the meeting by making a TON of excuses about labor in America, they blamed Pres Bush for the Union troubles in America. After this, they made a stunning statement to us. They said that this offer was "probably" the best offer that we would get from UPS and if we rejected it, the company would walk from the table and return in July and we would be on strike. The crowd did not react as they might have wished. These type of scare tactics dont work here in Los Angeles. We began going thru the contract, it was clear they were not here to explain to us how we got this new language, and they finally went ahead a made this clear: "we are not here to argue the language, we are just here to show you what we have and if you want to vote no then vote no" When we covered the article 37 language, EVERYONE complained about the 9.5 opt in / opt out section. The union confirmed my positions on what could happen with dispatching and they could not explain why in the opt out section it was necessary to make a driver waive all rights. In addition, with respect to our debate on 8.0 hours in this thread, the union confirms and affirms that ONLY TWO REQUESTS can be made each month and a maximum of 4 hours penalty pay a month can be recieved. They were very clear on this. If not, a driver could in effect, put in a grievance for a total of 32 hours a month if he put one in everyday all month and he was denied each time. Keep in mind the size of our centers vary from 10 to 125 and the 8.0 requests are going to be different in each. To make it all short, all the language was not defended and they kept repeating the same thing "if you dont like it, vote no, but we might end up on strike". The real kicker after the whole split wage thing, was that the COMPANY was insisting that after this vote, the contract would then GO INTO EFFECT ON JANUARY 1 2008 but economic issues would NOT go into effect until July 1 2008. Brothers and Sisters, given that I have read the whole contract and each package and Sort riders as well as the Western Conference and it is clear that we were sold out and sold short. I hate to say that, but it appears this way. Too many concessions in all areas. Here in my local, we had exclusive language that protected our members. It was and has been an addendum in the package rider that provided expedited arbitration for issues in our local.. We never participated in the panel system and we had the benefit of an arbitor making a binding decision within 30 days. Now, our local officers gave this back and they claimed the company was ready to walk over this issue. The result is to doom our members with a panel system that can take 8 to 12 months to settle a grievance. THANK YOU EXECUTIVE BOARD. Brothers and Sisters, I hope your meetings went better than ours. Peace. [/QUOTE]
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