Discussion in 'UPS Union Issues' started by Wally, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. Wally

    Wally Hailing from Parts Unknown.

    What is the union position in this? Doesn't seem to be anything on the Teamsters website?
  2. burrheadd

    burrheadd Be The Ball

    No info on Teamsters website Big shock there
  3. DirtySouth

    DirtySouth New Member

    O'Brien was crystal clear on this.

    Taylor? Not hearing anything.

    IBT needs to do what it can to stop the company from training our strike breakers via illegal subcontracting.
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  4. Box Ox

    Box Ox Heckin' Fancy Doggo

    You’re right. If the Union doesn’t do anything now, UPS is gonna shove PVDs down its throat and use it as a point of leverage for further concessions. It’ll say drivers should no longer receive the same level of compensation. It’ll say things like, “The industry is changing rapidly, and we have to be able to compete in the future!”

    Speaking of....

    “In a statement announcing the start of bargaining, Al Gudim, president of labor relations for UPS, said: “We are in a rapidly changing industry and look forward to working together with union negotiators to strongly position UPS for the future."

    They’re gonna make this about the well-being of the Company itself. Not the well being of its drivers. PVDs will be the “model of the future” that they work off of. And the Union will get no sympathy in the current political/judicial/regulatory environment.
  5. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

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  6. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

  7. UpstateNYUPSer

    UpstateNYUPSer Very proud grandfather.

    We had a union meeting and PVD’s were one of the main topics of discussion. As expected, the Union strongly disagrees with the Company moving forward on this without their approval.
  8. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    It's a topic, subject to collective bargaining. End of story.

    But as usual, the company is so arrogant.... they think they can do anything.

    Kind of they same way they treat all of their employees.

    (yes, management too)

  9. Box Ox

    Box Ox Heckin' Fancy Doggo

    Looks like they can.
  10. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    What is Hoffa prepared to do about it???...

    ....aside from making "information requests"???

    Teamsters Package Division Opposes New UPS “Seasonal Personal Vehicle Driver” Classification - UPS Rising

    This comprehensive, three sentence article you linked is a month old, with no other information disseminated.

    Can you see how the already cynical, are now turning skeptical???

    -Pfft- (I recently figure out what that means and have been dying to use it):wink-very:

  11. BigUnionGuy

    BigUnionGuy Got the T-Shirt

    If I was privy to that information, it wouldn't be posted here.

    As I previously posted in another thread, don't expect "minute by minute" updates.

    After the 2-man meeting next week, there will be more info.

    Cool.... isn't it ? ;)

  12. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    OK, thanks.

    "Minute by minute"???

    After a month, is it unreasonable to expect another 3 sentences?

    Never mind, we all feel better now.

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  13. DRporch

    DRporch Member

    PVD's make more then me if they count in mileage... if they have a Prius they are killing it out there
  14. SnowCitizen

    SnowCitizen Member

    They drive to a meet spot for free. They get a ton of packages in a small area and only get a few miles out of it. They drive home for free. The mileage pay will be basically nothing.
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  15. DRporch

    DRporch Member

    true, i guess its a matter of how long they work. if they work the same hours id be a little upset knowing im doing 2-3x the work and getting paid less
  16. Bubblehead

    Bubblehead My Senior Picture

    I predict that they will be paid poorly, but will persist, hoping to get in on the "ground floor" of this new business model, the same model that Amazon uses...???
  17. DRporch

    DRporch Member

    $18.75/hr and $.78/mile.
  18. Box Ox

    Box Ox Heckin' Fancy Doggo

    No raises, no pension, no healthcare/vision/dental, no package car. Maybe 15-20 miles on-area. UPS knows what it's doing.
  19. DRporch

    DRporch Member

    i guess factoring in all that is true as they are not part of the union correct?
  20. Box Ox

    Box Ox Heckin' Fancy Doggo

    Nope! The perfect strike breakers next year.