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<blockquote data-quote="soberups" data-source="post: 658640" data-attributes="member: 14668">A couple of things to ponder....&nbsp;Those among us without sin are free to cast the first stone.&nbsp;As a matter of principle, dishonesty ought to be grounds for termination; but principle without compassion or common sense is nothing more than intellectual masturbation.&nbsp;From my very first day as a driver, I was trained and instructed by my management team to be dishonest.&nbsp;I was instructed to indicate on my time card that I took an hour lunch when in fact I took none.&nbsp;I was dispatched with an impossible amount of NDA and instructed to write false times on the peel-off labels in order to avoid service failures.&nbsp;The &quot;time study&quot; for my route was intentionally rigged by IE to be an hour and a half behind reality in order to create a &quot;standard&quot; that could only be met by working off of the clock.&nbsp;UPS management has historically lived in a glass house when it comes to the subject of dishonesty; its a bit hypocritical when they choose to throw stones.&nbsp;&nbsp;I dont condone dishonesty and I know that two wrongs dont make a right. From a moral standpoint, however, there is in my mind a difference between selfish dishonesty for personal gain... versus misguided dishonesty that is committed with the best of intentions.&nbsp;In life, there are shades of grey.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="soberups, post: 658640, member: 14668"] A couple of things to ponder.... Those among us without sin are free to cast the first stone. As a matter of principle, dishonesty ought to be grounds for termination; but principle without compassion or common sense is nothing more than intellectual masturbation. From my very first day as a driver, I was trained and instructed by my management team to be dishonest. I was instructed to indicate on my time card that I took an hour lunch when in fact I took none. I was dispatched with an impossible amount of NDA and instructed to write false times on the peel-off labels in order to avoid service failures. The "time study" for my route was intentionally rigged by IE to be an hour and a half behind reality in order to create a "standard" that could only be met by working off of the clock. UPS management has historically lived in a glass house when it comes to the subject of dishonesty; its a bit hypocritical when they choose to throw stones. I dont condone dishonesty and I know that two wrongs dont make a right. From a moral standpoint, however, there is in my mind a difference between [I]selfish dishonesty[/I] for personal gain... versus [I]misguided dishonesty[/I] that is committed with the best of intentions. In life, there are shades of grey. [/QUOTE]

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