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<blockquote data-quote="interested" data-source="post: 51946"><p>Onetoofar is on to something very real here. I think it is safe to say that the management folks who have always been awarded the MIP,directly associated that compensation with their work within the partnership. I know I did, even as an outside hire. I have said this before, I will state it again, There is no other company UPS size that has the ability to rally its people around a cause. If it snows in some arbitrary region of the country and you are in management with a company that has its own distribution arm, you are not getting out of bed to drive a truck, load a truck or dispatch a truck. We are. </p><p> </p><p>When one of Tie Guys full time supervisors wants to cut out on a Friday after only three hours of work, he is covered. No vacation day, personal day, request permission from hr- just partnership- "Tie, two weeks from now on such snd such a date-I am going to blow out of here early and start my weekend-will you cover me-No sweat" That is partnership. So is going the extra 8-10 hours a week, missing ball games, backyard picnics and eating a cold lonely dinner at the kitchen table at 10:00 at night. We have people who have lived, breathed and supported the partnership in this manner EVERY DAY for TWENTY YEARS. Now the company and some of us here are going to just say it has changed-"Get over it". That is such an insult to the intelligence and past hard work of many of these partners. As we discussed many are perceived to be stuck, but many are still young enough to make decisions about careers that will at least pay you for the time they expect you to put in and pay you what the market bears for your efforts. </p><p> </p><p>We have heard from some here that have made the change and we have also witnessed some examples of how different life is on the outside. Everyone has a choice, but lets not insult each other by intimating that the stock price is directly correlated to managements efforts and their preoccupation with the change in the MIP. </p><p> </p><p>The market is the market and it WILL NOT EVER RETURN TO YOU the profits we saw as a privately held, growing company, from the advent of common carrier until the IPO. </p><p> </p><p>It is a very bitter pill to swallow indeed to punish those who have worked no less hard than the generation before them by yanking the blanket out from underneath. After all we are a top heavy organization it is there game plan we follow every day, to the letter. Why punish us now by removing the MIP. </p><p> </p><p>This company will go down in history as having record profits for the service industry. UPS makes billions. It should be very clear to everyone that they have been so successful because they have been able to keep costs down-That includes compensation of its people. That is a reality. Maybe our drivers are paid very well for their industry, and they deserve to be, but our management is not. Now we are compensated even less and the partnership has become something that has far less meaning these days. </p><p> </p><p>The strength of United Parcel Service has always been its people. They are this organizations greatest resource, why demean that resourcewith this move. Why cater to the dalliances of a group of wealthy investors in New York who have never even worked here. Why not let us share in the profits that we have worked so hard for. You brought so many along in this organization, preaching big picture, retirement, run your career the right way, and then you just yank it out from under them. </p><p> </p><p>How about at least an explanation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="interested, post: 51946"] Onetoofar is on to something very real here. I think it is safe to say that the management folks who have always been awarded the MIP,directly associated that compensation with their work within the partnership. I know I did, even as an outside hire. I have said this before, I will state it again, There is no other company UPS size that has the ability to rally its people around a cause. If it snows in some arbitrary region of the country and you are in management with a company that has its own distribution arm, you are not getting out of bed to drive a truck, load a truck or dispatch a truck. We are. When one of Tie Guys full time supervisors wants to cut out on a Friday after only three hours of work, he is covered. No vacation day, personal day, request permission from hr- just partnership- "Tie, two weeks from now on such snd such a date-I am going to blow out of here early and start my weekend-will you cover me-No sweat" That is partnership. So is going the extra 8-10 hours a week, missing ball games, backyard picnics and eating a cold lonely dinner at the kitchen table at 10:00 at night. We have people who have lived, breathed and supported the partnership in this manner EVERY DAY for TWENTY YEARS. Now the company and some of us here are going to just say it has changed-"Get over it". That is such an insult to the intelligence and past hard work of many of these partners. As we discussed many are perceived to be stuck, but many are still young enough to make decisions about careers that will at least pay you for the time they expect you to put in and pay you what the market bears for your efforts. We have heard from some here that have made the change and we have also witnessed some examples of how different life is on the outside. Everyone has a choice, but lets not insult each other by intimating that the stock price is directly correlated to managements efforts and their preoccupation with the change in the MIP. The market is the market and it WILL NOT EVER RETURN TO YOU the profits we saw as a privately held, growing company, from the advent of common carrier until the IPO. It is a very bitter pill to swallow indeed to punish those who have worked no less hard than the generation before them by yanking the blanket out from underneath. After all we are a top heavy organization it is there game plan we follow every day, to the letter. Why punish us now by removing the MIP. This company will go down in history as having record profits for the service industry. UPS makes billions. It should be very clear to everyone that they have been so successful because they have been able to keep costs down-That includes compensation of its people. That is a reality. Maybe our drivers are paid very well for their industry, and they deserve to be, but our management is not. Now we are compensated even less and the partnership has become something that has far less meaning these days. The strength of United Parcel Service has always been its people. They are this organizations greatest resource, why demean that resourcewith this move. Why cater to the dalliances of a group of wealthy investors in New York who have never even worked here. Why not let us share in the profits that we have worked so hard for. You brought so many along in this organization, preaching big picture, retirement, run your career the right way, and then you just yank it out from under them. How about at least an explanation. [/QUOTE]
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