What'dyabringmetoday???
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God was with Jake and Elwood.
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i havent chosen whats right or wrong based on what feels good. i understand when you stand with the oppressed eventually you are treated like the oppressed and i dont expect this to feel good.
cornel west definition, christian and theologian
he said faith is about love and justice
chris hedges minister say its about action just like cornel west and its about love and justice especially for poor and oppressed.
james cone theologian says faith is about freedom from oppression. notice the opposite of the word oppressed is freedom, liberation. its about justice here and now not after we die.
so basically all 3 of my religious leaders have the same definition of faith.
i have no doubt you have a different definition and all we can do is talk about it and then make up our own damn minds. it turns out my original definition of people who are non religious aligns with my ministers, but i thought they would say something like that.
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The Blues Brothers: Directed by John Landis. With Tom Erhart, Gerald Walling, John Belushi, Walter Levine. Jake Blues rejoins his brother Elwood after being released from prison, but the duo has just days to reunite their old R&B band and save the Catholic home where the two were raised...
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oldngray
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tourists24
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and your formed your world view based on what they say is good religion. That feels right to you. It's a humanist view of right and wrong.
niether cornel west nor james cone view because humanism is a rejection of god.
god is a liberating force who is one with the oppressed according to west. cone says god acts on behalf of hte poor and people who are not free.
tourists24
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which god? Is it the same Christ that I worship? Or is it another version?
blues brothers drove their cars into far right wing nazis. i would say the nazis werent about love and justice.
Nazism - Wikipedia
im sure its the same one.
oldngray
nowhere special
The Nazis loved the Jews. Kind of like you.View attachment 523609
blues brothers drove their cars into far right wing nazis. i would say the nazis werent about love and justice.
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tourists24
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Then it isn't the same God I serve. If they don't live their life based on the gospels then they are false teachers and doing it for their own purposes. If they were true followers of Christ it would also be their mission to try and bring as many others to Christ with them through salvation; and you are living proof that they either don't do that or you have rejected it.
youre a christian. theyre christians too. but you understand it differently. i believe in their definition of faith.
tourists24
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what is their "faith" based on? Faith in what?
tourists24
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Ok,,,, where does that "faith" for love and justice come from? Where in biblical teaching say that this means you will make it to heaven simply by having this faith? Where is this the instruction in the gospel teaching, especially when it comes to salvation?
God is a liberating force? We had slavery in this country for well over 200 years. We still have poor and impoverished people today. What you're doing is using God as a justification to implement socialism. You believe in an utopia on Earth. You don't want a system where people achieve success through hard work. What you want is to force hard workers to share their success with you without you earning it. You think you've found an angle claiming Jesus was for what you want. An examination of the Bible clearly debunks that idea. People like Cornel West say this stuff because it gets them well paid positions in Ivy League schools.
im just quoting my christian theologians and ministers. its sortve just common sense. the matrix revolutions ends with "i believed, i believed"
thats why jesus wouldnt defend capitalism because its oppressive by nature and you cant call it love.
tourists24
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this is exactly what a humanist view is. Even if your ministers claim it in a religious way, you use it through your "common sense".
Look, you have the humanist view. You are not a Christian nor living for Christ. Just embrace it and be the best person you can be
BrownFlush
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Yeah man. You're on it as usual.
This comment is so relevant and makes so much sense.
since you have a different definition of faith than i do, you should question your own beliefs.
