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<blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 6150410" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Is he dining with you?&nbsp; Any way you look at that verse you are taking it literally, not figuratively.&nbsp; Read Acts 2:37.&nbsp; Says they were pricked in their hearts, or cut to the heart in some translations, when they heard Peter&#039;s sermon about Jesus.&nbsp; They asked what they needed to do to be saved.&nbsp; They listened to the Apostle, they didn&#039;t have the Holy.Spirit telling them in their minds.&nbsp; Another example is the Ethiopian eunuch.&nbsp; He was reading the Scriptures and was asked by Philip if he understood what he was reading.&nbsp; He said how could he unless some man guided him.&nbsp; Philip taught him about Jesus and upon seeing some water he asked to be baptized.&nbsp; He didn&#039;t have the Holy Spirit coming to him to have a spiritual encounter which led to him being saved.&nbsp; If I understand [USER=26800]@Integrity[/USER] correctly we don&#039;t need to be &quot;saved.&quot;&nbsp; He just wants us to have a wonderful relationship with God who will converse with us and envelop us in his love.&nbsp; If God is only opening up Christ&#039;s Church to those he contacts and makes receptive then what&#039;s the point of Judgement?&nbsp; Let&#039;s take the Bible in its entirety instead of editing out the portions we disagree with, as Integrity is want to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="vantexan, post: 6150410, member: 24302"] Is he dining with you? Any way you look at that verse you are taking it literally, not figuratively. Read Acts 2:37. Says they were pricked in their hearts, or cut to the heart in some translations, when they heard Peter's sermon about Jesus. They asked what they needed to do to be saved. They listened to the Apostle, they didn't have the Holy.Spirit telling them in their minds. Another example is the Ethiopian eunuch. He was reading the Scriptures and was asked by Philip if he understood what he was reading. He said how could he unless some man guided him. Philip taught him about Jesus and upon seeing some water he asked to be baptized. He didn't have the Holy Spirit coming to him to have a spiritual encounter which led to him being saved. If I understand [USER=26800]@Integrity[/USER] correctly we don't need to be "saved." He just wants us to have a wonderful relationship with God who will converse with us and envelop us in his love. If God is only opening up Christ's Church to those he contacts and makes receptive then what's the point of Judgement? Let's take the Bible in its entirety instead of editing out the portions we disagree with, as Integrity is want to do. [/QUOTE]

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