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<blockquote data-quote="FromOffTheStreets" data-source="post: 6156922" data-attributes="member: 75786">You suckered me in. Judas was a follower but not a believer- John 6:64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”Sam Morris is an idiot unless the quote is out of context.There is a difference between failing and completely turning from God which is what Hebrews 6 is about. Hebrews 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.You can&#039;t come back after you leave.The reason there is talk of once saved always saved is this - John 10:25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and My Father are one.”</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FromOffTheStreets, post: 6156922, member: 75786"] You suckered me in. Judas was a follower but not a believer- John 6:64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him. 65 And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.” Sam Morris is an idiot unless the quote is out of context. There is a difference between failing and completely turning from God which is what Hebrews 6 is about. Hebrews 6:4 For [I]it is[/I] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put [I]Him[/I] to an open shame. You can't come back after you leave. The reason there is talk of once saved always saved is this - John 10:25 Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe. The works that I do in My Father’s name, they bear witness of Me. 26 But you do not believe, because you are not of My sheep, as I said to you. 27 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given [I]them[/I] to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch [I]them[/I] out of My Father’s hand. 30 I and [I]My[/I] Father are one.” [/QUOTE]

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