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<blockquote data-quote="raceanoncr" data-source="post: 289574" data-attributes="member: 6408"><p>OK, <u>strickly speaking, </u>there was no DOT violation YET! Does that prevent him/her or anyone else from refusing to pull or drive equipment that does not meet DOT requirements until they are off UPS property? </p><p> </p><p>What about me? I DO hold a valid CDL with every endorsement. I hook to a trailer in the yard with a serious air leak, one or more flat tires, leaking hub seals, whatever. Do I have to pull outside the yard for it to become an issue? <u>Technically speaking, </u>I'm not in violation of DOT regs, YET. If I do, you know who gets dinged? I get the issue addressed or fixed before I leave the yard. If management ORDERS me to pull unsafe equipment, I refuse on the spot, property or not! DOT violation or not! </p><p> </p><p>This person had the right, DOT, CDL or not, to be trained and certified for the equipment that they were required to drive and NOT be forced to leave the yard until they were. </p><p> </p><p>You know, when I was trained in p/c many yrs ago, it used to be that you were certified for that equipment. For instance: I was trained in, what was then called a P600 (don't know what designations are now). If they put in a P800 for one day or switched me to a P800, I had to be certified for the bigger 9 (Wow!) p/c or I didn't take it out! Is it still the same today? Or, obviously, you can take out anything?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="raceanoncr, post: 289574, member: 6408"] OK, [U]strickly speaking, [/U]there was no DOT violation YET! Does that prevent him/her or anyone else from refusing to pull or drive equipment that does not meet DOT requirements until they are off UPS property? What about me? I DO hold a valid CDL with every endorsement. I hook to a trailer in the yard with a serious air leak, one or more flat tires, leaking hub seals, whatever. Do I have to pull outside the yard for it to become an issue? [U]Technically speaking, [/U]I'm not in violation of DOT regs, YET. If I do, you know who gets dinged? I get the issue addressed or fixed before I leave the yard. If management ORDERS me to pull unsafe equipment, I refuse on the spot, property or not! DOT violation or not! This person had the right, DOT, CDL or not, to be trained and certified for the equipment that they were required to drive and NOT be forced to leave the yard until they were. You know, when I was trained in p/c many yrs ago, it used to be that you were certified for that equipment. For instance: I was trained in, what was then called a P600 (don't know what designations are now). If they put in a P800 for one day or switched me to a P800, I had to be certified for the bigger 9 (Wow!) p/c or I didn't take it out! Is it still the same today? Or, obviously, you can take out anything? [/QUOTE]
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