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Message: <blockquote data-quote="vantexan" data-source="post: 4589126" data-attributes="member: 24302"><p>Baloney.  I owned one pickup between 2010-13.  Otherwise motorscooters, bicycles, or walked.  And no matter how hard you try you can't make the numbers work for someone starting out in 2003 or later who didn't already have a pension from another job and/or a spouse with great income to be retired by now and existing on much more than Social Security and a small supplement from the portable pension and 401k.  And this from you, the guy who thinks $80k a year isn't enough income in retirement!</p></blockquote><p></p>