There are 5 of us in the group. We lost anywhere from 3 1/2 up to 13 years time with the company. We were not temps, we were UPS. Everyone in previous contracts, eg. hi-picks, were always grandfathered in at their standing time. Why not us? Believe me, we have talked to our BA at the union (2 of them in fact, there has been an election since this all started), our legal rep at the company, supervisors up to our pits, union officers and it seems like strangers on the street. Five judges across the country have declaed the way Revenue Recovery was taken by the union was illegal and have overturned the contract. In each case, after a 90 day period, the employees were given the opportunity to vote on joining the union or not with all their benfits and seniority intact. That is what we are doing too. I want to be in the Teamsters, but I also want to have everything I have earned in my years at UPS.