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<blockquote data-quote="PobreCarlos" data-source="post: 816280" data-attributes="member: 16651"><p>My gosh...a route that you ran "years ago" and "what changed" since then has solely been "some Driver who skips Lunch and Runs all Day" covering it accounting for the increased sph?</p><p></p><p>Heck, I'm reminded of a route that I ran "years ago" in which I ran about 10 sph...and now in terms of the total stops delivered within the confines of that area, the rate is probably on the order of 300 sph. Of course, there are now 8 - 10 areas which have been cut-in from the one, and the density is much, much higher, plus drivers usually don't have to get signatures on residentials, etc., etc. But why ruin a silly comparison?</p><p></p><p>Not sure about your presumptions about "what the job would be like with NO UNION"; kinda' hard to say without there being any experience in the matter, isn't it? (like the guy in Kentucky who kept snapping his fingers to keep the wild tigers at bay; as far as he was concerned, it was working!) Then again, perhaps one could look at the "union" experience of other trucking companies? Seems to me, "minimum wage" would be a giant step UP from "no wage at all"...which is what most of them organized by the Teamsters have had to offer over the last few decades. CFWY paying well, are they? How about Red Star? DHL? Etc., etc. </p><p></p><p>On the other hand, your statements about the representation the union provides ("believe me they don't do much") speaks volumes about the integrity of your union, and directly to the consequences of an entity - ANY entity - forcing its so-called "representation" on individuals who want to be recognized on their OWN merits and NOT be lumped with the mediocre when it comes to treatment and compensation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="PobreCarlos, post: 816280, member: 16651"] My gosh...a route that you ran "years ago" and "what changed" since then has solely been "some Driver who skips Lunch and Runs all Day" covering it accounting for the increased sph? Heck, I'm reminded of a route that I ran "years ago" in which I ran about 10 sph...and now in terms of the total stops delivered within the confines of that area, the rate is probably on the order of 300 sph. Of course, there are now 8 - 10 areas which have been cut-in from the one, and the density is much, much higher, plus drivers usually don't have to get signatures on residentials, etc., etc. But why ruin a silly comparison? Not sure about your presumptions about "what the job would be like with NO UNION"; kinda' hard to say without there being any experience in the matter, isn't it? (like the guy in Kentucky who kept snapping his fingers to keep the wild tigers at bay; as far as he was concerned, it was working!) Then again, perhaps one could look at the "union" experience of other trucking companies? Seems to me, "minimum wage" would be a giant step UP from "no wage at all"...which is what most of them organized by the Teamsters have had to offer over the last few decades. CFWY paying well, are they? How about Red Star? DHL? Etc., etc. On the other hand, your statements about the representation the union provides ("believe me they don't do much") speaks volumes about the integrity of your union, and directly to the consequences of an entity - ANY entity - forcing its so-called "representation" on individuals who want to be recognized on their OWN merits and NOT be lumped with the mediocre when it comes to treatment and compensation. [/QUOTE]
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